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  If I Were Still A JW I Would Think We Had To Be Living At The Time Of The End!

  by minimus in

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  with all the terrible things happening on this earth, i bet most witnesses feel that jehovah god has to step in..

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Unfortunately, the WT shell game has been making victims of JWs for over 100 years now. Some things never change:

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  "Now, in view of recent labor troubles and threatened anarchy, our readers are writing to know if there may not be a mistake in the 1914 date. They do not see how present conditions can hold out so long under the strain. We see no reason for changing the figures - nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226
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  Creationism emails from a JW

  by TheStumbler in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  earlier this year, i received an email from a jw family member with a link to this video:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1ruhkgqjug.

  i wrote a long reply debunking the video (mostly copying talkorigins info).

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  I think it is absolutely hilarious when religious people point fingers at someone else, especially scientists, and make accusations of fraud, deceit and believing in "fairytales". A classic case of the kettle calling the pot black.

  This is doubly so for JWs. If they only knew how much WT quotes out of context and cherry-picks to 'prove' their theology. Of course, the JWs who sent you this video will no more check out the source material alluded to in the video as they would verify what's in WT literature. They'll take half-baked claims and run with it, convinced they've added to their college education by reading the WT.

  Great response to them, TS.
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  JWs say, "They don't judge"

  by skeeter1 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what is up with jws?

  lately, i've heard this line, "we don't judge .

  but, doesn't everyone judge?

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  At this rate, they're gonna have nothin' left pretty soon...

  WT is like Doritos: "Don't worry, we'll make more".
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  Using New JW.ORG Merchandise to Share the Good News, t-shirts and painted JW.org toe nails!

  by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are approved methods of preaching the good news about jw.org in style!.

  caleb and his single mammy, tired of your child losing notes to his teacher, pin that note with a friendly, lively jw.org caleb and mommy button for a small fee!

  https://www.pinterest.com/pin/356206651751072594/ with our rich hertigage of mixing organization with the skills of a saleman you knew this was bound to happen.. .

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  I'm still waiting for tattoos.

  A "JW.Org" tramp stamp would be priceless.
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  What were the calculations used to arrive at the 1874 date of Christ's return?

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?

  i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.

  i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Russell WAS speculating, but out of a sincerity, perhaps.

  Using words like "Scriptural proof", "god's dates" and "definitely" veers WAY out speculating territory.

  Besides, WT has never cut anyone else a break for being wrong but sincere. In WT's view, sincerity is not an excuse. Even if CT Russell was speculating (he wasn't), WT continued the great tradition after Russell's death, and it's hardline stance nullifies any attempt it may make to excuse itself.

  Historically, WT claims it was a sincere speculator only AFTER it fails yet again (1914;1925;1975); when teachings are current WT is always speaking directly for god and challenges within the ranks are squashed immediately. Genuine speculators don't squash dissent.
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  Teaching Anthony Morris III names of common things.

  by LogCon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "...what it is is this spanx, this skin-tight stuff they wear.

  now, are you sisters wearing this in the ministry?

  i can't say that i've ever seen that.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  What do you expect from a wiener who talks about "human hotdogs"?
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  What were the calculations used to arrive at the 1874 date of Christ's return?

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?

  i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.

  i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Thanks, Mac. Great references.

  I noticed this one right away, which garnered a big "LOL" over my morning coffee. It also made me realize that god (if he actually existed) gets a giant "FAIL!" stamp from me. If WT is the best god has, we are all in deep s**t:

  *** w73 7/1 p. 402 Praise Jehovah with His People ***

  4 Consider, too, the fact that Jehovah?s organization alone, in all the earth, is directed by God?s holy spirit or active force. (Zech. 4:6) Only this organization functions for Jehovah's purpose and to his praise. To it alone God's Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book.

  How very much true Christians appreciate associating with the only organization on earth that understands the deep things of God?!
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  JWs say, "They don't judge"

  by skeeter1 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what is up with jws?

  lately, i've heard this line, "we don't judge .

  but, doesn't everyone judge?

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Can you say: JUDICIAL committee?

  Now, now, Terry! Surely you know that Jehovah™ makes the decision in a JC and the Elders are just passing the message along. So, technically, they are not judging. LOL.

  Vidiot: Rutherford set the example; he was "The Judge",

  Due to your perspicacity, Vidiot, WT will be forced to expunge yet another factoid from its already overly-expunged history.
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  What were the calculations used to arrive at the 1874 date of Christ's return?

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?

  i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.

  i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Here's some typical WT hypocrisy and finger pointing where WT attempts to shift blame as a diversion to what WT itself dogmatically promoted:

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  "The overthrow of that dominion in 1798 by the French Revolution marked the beginning of the ‘time of the end’..." (Watch Tower, August 1879, p. 24 Society’s reprints). "The year 1799 marked the beginning of the ‘time of the end,’ when various events were to occur." Watch Tower, November 1, 1914, p. 5565 Society’s reprints

  "1799 A. D. beginning time of the end" Watch Tower "Topical Index," 1919, p. 6542, Society’s reprints

  "Twelve hundred and sixty years from A. D. 539 brings us to 1799, which is another proof that 1799 definitely marks the beginning of ‘the time of the end’." Creation by J.F. Rutherford (1927) p. 315 early editions (Later editions essentially the same, p. 294).

  And, only after decades passed and WT figured no JW would remember WT's own teachings, made this statement to make the CC look bad:

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  "Some Roman Catholics have claimed that Jesus Christ's thousand Year Reign ended in 1799 when French armies captured Rome and deposed the pope as its ruler, so that he was deported as a prisoner to France, where he died." (Watchtower; Sept. 1, 1989; p. 12).

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  Or, how about this doozy (compared to the above quotes, Re: 1799):

  "We see no reason for changing the figures - nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." (Watchtower July 15, 1894, p 266; p 1677 reprints)

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  "Jehovah’s Witnesses have consistently shown from the Scriptures that the year 1914 marked the beginning of this world’s time of the end and that ‘the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly men’ has drawn near." The Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1993, p. 9
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  After all, JWs were RIGHT!

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

  2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

  http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Of course, all of this is based on one scripture that WT completely misapplies: Revelation 11:18.

  The 'ruining the earth' refers to ruining of the human condition spiritually, not a ruining of the planet through pollution (not that I believe any of it, but WT should've consulted real scholars before formulating that particlular doctrine.)

  It's a fail no matter how one looks at it.