Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

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"It's not religious..." Wait... What???

by dynamiterose77 in

my friend, mike works as a massage therapist, and there is a woman at the shop that is super-jw-woman and is constantly hounding him with things.. today, he's messaging me and he tells me that she was trying to push a brochure or something on him.

he said he'd really rather not read a religious pamphlet.. so... she says, "it's not religious... it's from god.".

isn't that kinda what religious means?

AndDontCallMeShirley

"It's not religious... It's from God."

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Does this mean god is an atheist?

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IC 2014 talk: "A Century of Kingdom Rule Contrasted With a Century of Satans Rule"

by AnnOMaly in

a discussion of this talk on friday morning deserves its own thread.

as i said elsewhere, it was a remarkable one.

the speaker was manfred vencebi (google him - he's a bethel bigwig) and some of his remarks are real gems.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Ironically, MEPS wouldn't even be necessary had Jehovah™ not confused the languages in the first place.

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@ Oubliette:

In simple terms, engineering is a three-step process:

Define a problem (in Jehovah's methodology, create a problem)
Design a solution ( this is where Satan and his system steps in and fixes the problem Jehovah™ created)
Optimize it (this is where WT claims to have done steps 1 and 2 all by itself but, in reality, did nothing)

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Something I need to clear up about the bible - It is not a BRONZE AGE BOOK!

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

let's be technical.

the bronze age ended in 1200 bce in devoloped places and later ... aroun 900-800 in other places.

indeed read 1 samuel 13's ending.. the bible was produced not one tiny bit in the bronze age.

AndDontCallMeShirley

It's a book who's stories begin in the Stone Age, progress into the Bronze Age, are written about in the Iron Age, all so it could be entirely debunked in the Information Age.

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Atlanta International Conv. Invite July 2014

by Iown Mylife in

jw
friends

two copies of this invitation were pinned to the corkboard at the post office this morning: a world government, why do we need one, is it possible, who is qualified to rule?.

i know this invitation hand-out has been discussed but i missed this part - that wt obviously is saying they are qualified to rule the world.

i can't take it.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Who may attend? Answer: Everyone.

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Unless JWs don't want you there, then suddenly it is not open to the public:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOt8SaC9-No&feature=player_detailpage

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Entertainment for International Delegates

by Listener in

bibl3thumper has posted a youtube of the celebrations that took place for german delegates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvs6_q7rqps&feature=em-subs_digest.

it's hard to believe that they are now using the kingdom hall to sing pop songs and for dancing.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Where is the District Overseer?

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Packing his bags...he's been pink-slipped.

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Entertainment for International Delegates

by Listener in

bibl3thumper has posted a youtube of the celebrations that took place for german delegates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvs6_q7rqps&feature=em-subs_digest.

it's hard to believe that they are now using the kingdom hall to sing pop songs and for dancing.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Just remember the theme of the convention everybody: "Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom".

JeezHovah loves line dances and "worldly" music, especially the Vietnam War protest songs. All of this promotes "The Kingdom"* and will surely bring thousands of people into "The Truth".

As others have said, I remember the days when a JW couldn't even have a cup of coffee in a KH on a bitterly cold winter morning field service meeting. "Worldly" music for a wedding? Forget it! "Worldly" music while cleaning or working on a KH? Forget it!

Now WT is endorsing Penetecostal Revivals. I wonder how long before JWs are also 'Holy Rolling" or having Bingo Night? Bake sales?

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* I bet not one JW realizes or cares that no one is out 'preaching for the Kingdom' when they are touring, dancing and listening to concerts instead.

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Something I need to clear up about the bible - It is not a BRONZE AGE BOOK!

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

let's be technical.

the bronze age ended in 1200 bce in devoloped places and later ... aroun 900-800 in other places.

indeed read 1 samuel 13's ending.. the bible was produced not one tiny bit in the bronze age.

AndDontCallMeShirley

and?

It depends on what you are considering: when it was allegedly written, or the events during the time periods it allegedly recounts.

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Another possible reason why GB demoted Pastor Russell from the FDS.

by donuthole in

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friends

in barbara anderson's research for the proclaimers book she was tasked with identifying the faithful & discreet slave throughout history.

the idea was the watchtower could identify a line of kingdom proclaimers from the days of the apostles.

she was not able to do this with the established criteria, that the individual had to adhere to the basic doctrinal beliefs seperating jw's from "false religion".. it seems that governing body would now agree.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Of course, if 'ol CTR were to come back today, I doubt he'd be able to pick WT/JWs out of a lineup and identify them as the religion he started...

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Poor Animals

by HeyThere in

wow.

the bible really is something else.

i believe i am becoming athiest.

AndDontCallMeShirley

from, "The Atheist's Book of Bible Stories":

SOLOMON, AND THE ISRAELITE ABATTOIR King Solomon was a very devout man. He also liked to do things in big ways. Take, for example, the sacrifice that he offered up during a festival:
“Then the King and all the people offered sacrifice before the LORD. King Solomon offered as a sacrifice twenty-two thousand oxen and a hundred and twenty thousand sheep.” - 2 Chronicles 7:4,5

Now, let’s pause for a moment and let these numbers sink in. According to verse 9, this festival lasted seven days. That means that one animal was killed every 4.3 seconds, day and night, for a week.
Let’s look at it another way. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, an adult sheep would weigh between 80 and 400 pounds. Let’s take an average size of 200 pounds. Oxen come it at around 900 pounds. This means that Solomon slaughtered 43.8 million pounds of animals.
This would be a pretty big pile of animal. If the animal carcasses were stacked, with no wasted space, it would make a pile of 3.9 million cubic feet, or, a pile 5 feet high, covering 18 acres.
And what did he do with this meat? Well according to verse 7, he tried to put it on the alter, along with a cereal grain offering.
“For there he offered the burnt offering and the fat of the peace offerings, because the bronze alter Solomon had made could not hold the burnt offering and the cereal offering and the fat.” - 2 Chronicles 7:7
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Talk about an understatement. I could picture Solomon, looking at that mountain of meat, and saying to his attendant, “Gee, do you think that’s too much to put on the alter?”
The sheer volume of meat involved is enough to convince anyone that this passage is grossly exaggerated. I will not even attempt to calculate the economic impact of this slaughter on a relatively poor group of desert farmers.

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What's missing from this list of technologies used by JWs

by scotoma in

jw
friends

this topic has been discussed before but it is interesting to look at it in the light of the new book god's kingdom rules.. 1903 news paper sermons.

1914 photo drama of creation.

1922 radio.

AndDontCallMeShirley

WT didn't invent this, but they did raise the bar to a new high for all others to strive for:

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