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  Is the Bible just as fake as the JW's

  by BackSlider in

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  it seems that the more i research, the more i find that it's all just a big scam.

  is there any evidence that even the bible isn't just another big religion/government scam?

  would we listen to putin or obama if they told us they have verified new holy writings?

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  How could be beneficial the following passage?

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  Exactly !
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  convinced 95% of all active jw's don't have a clue as to where 1914 originates

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. watchtower
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  so talking with my wife last night...i was explaining to her about a conversation i had with a person at work about end times.

  he has a strange belief that some scriptures in isaiah perdict something huge is going to happen in september of 2015. she then states that no one can predict the future only the father knows and he is in a cult.

  lol on the inside.. i then stated "what about 1914 and the dubs perdiction and what it means today" she said no there was never any predictions.

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  One of my first big wake ups three years ago was regarding 1914. As a JW, we are taught that CT Russell 'discovered' this timeline and therefore proves he had god's exclusive direction. God revealed to him alone that 1914 was a "marked" date. What a shock to learn it was created by, not CT Russell, but JA Brown and promoted by the Adventists long before Russell ever heard of it! A further shock is that this is even acknowledged in the Proclaimers book, but I never cared enough to pay attention to it. I doubt very many JWs have actually even read the Proclaimers book, which incidentally, is one of the most revealing and self-damning publications WT has ever produced.

  My next thought was: If I didn't know this one important fact as a fourth generation JW (and BTW, I was a good JW- very studious, very "faithful" and I could explain the 607-1914 timeline backwards and forwards) what else didn't I know about my religion? This led to an avalanche of facts and evidence that obliterated my religion in the span of a few short weeks. The next big shock was that, not 1914, but 1799 was the beginning of the Last Days and 1874 was the year of Christ's invisible return. 1914 would usher in Armageddon, it was not the beginning of the last days as WT now teaches.

  In short, I realized I was lied to my entire life and my religion was a sham based on false prophecies and idiocy....
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  Coloring book activity for kids: Lot's wife dying

  by rebel8 in

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  omg.

  would you have your kids do this activity?

  so messed up.. .

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Lot's favorite TV sitcom: "All In The Family".
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  Coloring book activity for kids: Lot's wife dying

  by rebel8 in

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  omg.

  would you have your kids do this activity?

  so messed up.. .

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Next month's connect-the-dots project for children: David collecting 200 Philistine foreskins. Happy times for all
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  Is the Bible just as fake as the JW's

  by BackSlider in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems that the more i research, the more i find that it's all just a big scam.

  is there any evidence that even the bible isn't just another big religion/government scam?

  would we listen to putin or obama if they told us they have verified new holy writings?

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  So, you may justify many absurdities by using the Old Testament as the Word of God

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  And, yet, the Apostle Paul held up the OT as worthy of respect by saying "all scripture [the Old Testament] is inspired and beneficial". Not that I believe the NT either, but this scripture is used as a basis by JWs (who, incidentally believe the "all scripture is inspired" reference means the entire Bible is inspired) for basing Christian beliefs on.
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  For those in the Watchtower who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible

  by opusdei1972 in

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  2. bible

  the watchtower says:.

  9 while most major books of religion say very little, if anything, about god, the bible acquaints us with jehovah god and his activities.

  it helps us to see the many facets of his personality.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Please include more highlighting in future posts
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  For those in the Watchtower who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower says:.

  9 while most major books of religion say very little, if anything, about god, the bible acquaints us with jehovah god and his activities.

  it helps us to see the many facets of his personality.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  I simply don't believe that every word of God is in the Bible

  Then how do you choose what parts to believe?

  If Jesus was not infallible, then that undermines the core concept of the entire Ransom concept, does it not? If the Ransom is in doubt, then a Christian is wasting their time being a Christian.

  If I read a book, any book, knowing up front that 50%, 75% or more is a lie, inaccurate, or nonsense, and I don't know (or can't know) what is true or not, is it worth reading at all? No.
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  convinced 95% of all active jw's don't have a clue as to where 1914 originates

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so talking with my wife last night...i was explaining to her about a conversation i had with a person at work about end times.

  he has a strange belief that some scriptures in isaiah perdict something huge is going to happen in september of 2015. she then states that no one can predict the future only the father knows and he is in a cult.

  lol on the inside.. i then stated "what about 1914 and the dubs perdiction and what it means today" she said no there was never any predictions.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  99.9% of JWs also are completely oblivious to the fact that the 1914 date and its chronology wasn't even invented by Russell. At best, he plagarized the entire concept from the Adventists and William Miller and stapled the WT label on it.
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  convinced 95% of all active jw's don't have a clue as to where 1914 originates

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so talking with my wife last night...i was explaining to her about a conversation i had with a person at work about end times.

  he has a strange belief that some scriptures in isaiah perdict something huge is going to happen in september of 2015. she then states that no one can predict the future only the father knows and he is in a cult.

  lol on the inside.. i then stated "what about 1914 and the dubs perdiction and what it means today" she said no there was never any predictions.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  she said no there was never any predictions

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  LOL

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  "In the coming 26 years [1914/1915] , all present governments will be overthrown and dissolved." (C.T. Russell, Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 2, p. 98-99, 1889)

  "In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914." (The Time Is At Hand, 1902 edition, p. 99)

  "We see no reason for changing the figures--nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. We see no reason for changing from our opinion expressed in the view presented in the Watch Tower of January 15, '92. We advise that it be read again."
  --Watchtower 7/15/1894, p.1677

  So it was in this harvest also up to A.D. 1878 the time prophecies and the fact of the Lord's presence.... but the same fact and scriptures, teaching the same time and presence, stand unchallenged and incontrovertible. (The Time Is At Hand; 1889; 1915 ed.; p. 236)

  "We have no doubt whatever in regard to the chronology relating to the dates of 1874, 1914, 1918, and 1925..." W 5-15-1922

  "This chronology is not of man, but of God. Being of divine origin and divinely corroborated, present-truth chronology stands in a class by itself, absolutely and unqualifiedly correct...." (Watchtower, July 15, 1922 p. 217)

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  After 40 decades of wolfing about 1914 and a 100% failure of all that WT said would transpire in that year, it waffled with this astonishing statement:

  "We did not say positively that this would be the year."
  --Watchtower 11/1/1914, p.5565

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  The plain truth of the matter is most JWs know nothing of their religion or the basis for their beliefs because they don't have to. As a JW, your only job is to obey the GB and believe what they tell you to believe. Why study? If a JW discovers evidence that contradicts what the GB teaches, they have no freedom to dissent or question it.
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  Is the Bible just as fake as the JW's

  by BackSlider in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems that the more i research, the more i find that it's all just a big scam.

  is there any evidence that even the bible isn't just another big religion/government scam?

  would we listen to putin or obama if they told us they have verified new holy writings?

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  P.S.

  There isn't any "good" advice found in the Bible that didn't already exist in other cultures long before the Bible was written. There is nothing unique to the alleged positive advice in it. Many already had it figured out before god supposedly decided to chime in on human affairs.