God did not commit genocide because everything he did was for a reason
Many a human tyrant has killed millions/tens of millions using the same excuse...
so at the meeting a few weeks ago the speaker was having a talk about inactive people and then he went on about how people think the god of the old testament was cruel and genocidal.
he then said that god and did not commit genocide because everything he did was for a reason.
i was shocked at how stupid that saying was.
God did not commit genocide because everything he did was for a reason
Many a human tyrant has killed millions/tens of millions using the same excuse...
to give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.
around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.
he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.
He told me that he feels it is THE DEVIL offering him this job
Ironically, "Satan" seems to be the only one helping a person (JW or non-JW) to better themselves. All Jehovah seems to offer is unemployment and unfulfilled hopes and dreams.
JWs sure love their do-nothing god.
so at the zoned visit, tough tony remarked how inactive ones had "blood on their hands" for not warning the unsuspecting inhabitants of earth of their impending doom at armageddon.
could it be true that the society is at least equally bloodguilty for the same offense?.
if there was one way watchtower could warn the entire inhabited earth of their sudden destruction all at once, it would certainly be on the internet.. and the perfect opportunity to warn the entire inhabited earth of the impending destruction would be to answer a "frequently answered question" in an honest and forthright manner.
So you have the absolute perfect opportunity to warn the entire friggin world that they are about to perish unless they become a JW
Additionally, I didn't see any advertisements at all (Internet or otherwise) where the WT announced to the world that the Governing Body is the Faithful and Discreet Slave.
Since WT teaches that a person must identify that Slave, then support it, in order to gain life, it seems to me that's fairly important information.
Yet another WT fail.
if you don't know, km's are now online too.
under the heading, "i cannot find him at home again!
" it mentions how a text message or email is to be counted as a return visit.
Shirley: Thank you for explaining your reasoning so clearly and eloquently.
You are welcome
if you don't know, km's are now online too.
under the heading, "i cannot find him at home again!
" it mentions how a text message or email is to be counted as a return visit.
Shirley: what difference does it make to us- *the ones who already know it is a futile endeavor*if the methods are ineffective. We are not doing it. We know lives are not at stake.
The effectiveness of the methods, or lack thereof, is not the issue. The point is, JWs are trapped in a system of man-made rules that enslave them to a schedule and lifestyle they may not necessarily agree with but abide by under compulsion/duress in order to comply with the demands of their leaders. While lives are not at stake, as you correctly pointed out, lives are being wasted. And, many here still have family and close friends in the WT Org, and it is painful to watch them waste their lives in futile endeavors.
It makes me livid to watch my still-in family members donate money they cannot afford to donate, and spend what little time and energy they have serving WT's interests, not their own. They put health, dreams and happiness aside because they have been convinced by WT that that is what God requires them to do. That's why I care.
It is bad enough that WT demands people's vital energy and lives...but made so much worse that the same energy and life is being spent on increasingly absurd levels of ineffective triviality and "busy work".
what choice do they have
You said it. When a person no longer has a choice, then they are a slave. I, for one, am not a fan of slavery. That's my answer to your query, "what difference does it make to us?"
took one of my cats to the vet two weeks ago, she gets dermatitis from flea bites and although she gats flea treatment every four weeks the skin problem flares up about every two years.
so i asked for her usual steroid tablets which clear it up in about a week but no this young vet about 25 thought she should have a steroid injection and an antibiotic.
didn't work and she's much worse.. went back today and another vet said can't give you the tablets because the injection is still in her system and lasts 6 weeks.
I don't hate Vettes but I much prefer something like a 1967 Camaro RS/SS.
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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Where have all the apologists gone?
Texting for return visits or sitting 30 feet from their Devil Carts sipping a Starbucks Grande Frappuccino, no doubt
Gone are the days of debating 607 and robust doctrinal arguements.
NeoJW: "607? What's that? Is that how many text return visits you've done today?"
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@ AlwaysBusy...it is unconscionable how some here (no names mentioned, but his initials are GC) can be so callous to such an issue. I'm with you...this Org. is depraved and a day of reckoning is coming.
http://rapsinews.com/judicial_news/20141107/272536636.html.
st. petersburg, november 7 (rapsi) environmental prosecutors office for st. petersburg have uncovered violations by the russian jehovahs witnesses chapter, according to the statement issued by the prosecution on friday.. the prosecutors office reports that the religious organization dumped waste in a creek that flows into the gulf of finland, in upstate st. petersburg, without any permit.. the neva-ladoga water authority confirmed that in 2013, jehovahs witnesses dumped more than 30 thousand cubic meters of waste into the creek.
in 2014, authorities detected a rise in concentrations in ammonium lignosulphonate and fluoride, in violation of the on environmental protection federal law and water code of russian federation.. the prosecutors have filed a lawsuit against dumping waste into the creek.
Wasn't the WTS caught dumping waste by the Wallkill site?
Yes.
WT's polluting knows no bounds.
this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.
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GC: The abusers issue is of no consequence.
Unless, of course, you are that one that was raped as a child by a JW and firther victimized by the religion that defended the rapist.
GC: The Org just has to come to terms with implementing a new guidance to turn these people to the local authorities.
If the pedophilia is "of no consequence", then why would WT change its policies?
Actually, for the number of existing JWs, the number of abuse cases is really minuscule
How would you know? WT has hidden most of these cases through gag order settlements, and keeps it hushed within the Org. itself. 99% + of JWs have never heard of the Conti case or the recent case in San Diego to the tune of $13,5 million. If JWs are ignorant of the most newsworthy cases, it's reasonable to say the scope of the problem is much larger than can be imagined.
GC, why are you here? Your Governing Body explicitly orders you not to go onto "apostate" websites, yet here you are. Why do you defend your leadership when even you don't believe what they say?
ok so i know its not really anything to do with jwness but we are struggling with baby names and really can't think of one we both like.
its getting a bit desperate as i'm due in about 8 weeks .. i'm getting bored of looking at the same old names on the baby names websites so any suggestions would be much appreciated (girls please).. **cash prize for the one we choose!
** ....... no not really lol.. .
anddontcallmeshirley- Vagina?? Really?! lol
Sadly, I didn't make that one up. A friend of mine said he knew a woman with that name (she always smelled like tuna...very weird).