Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

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KM "worksheets" for Bible "students", and a question about God.

by DATA-DOG in

so, there was a km part about worksheets for bible studies.

1) watchtarded.

one hilarious part came from a paragraph in the km.

AndDontCallMeShirley

If I am watching my child play on a jungle gym and they are getting ready to do something foolish that could cause their death or maim them for life, do I let nature take its course?

Yes... if you are Jehovah or one of his Witnesses. It's the only loving choice you have.

I don't remember the verse, and I don't care where my Bible is, but it says, 'you who have spiritual qualifications, try to readjust a man before he sins or is even aware of his wrong course'. (paraphrasing)

So, apparently, Jehovah is not spiritually qualified to help anyone, as he does nothing ahead of time... ever.

1) Understand what the Bible teaches.

2) Accept what the Bible teaches.

3) Apply what the Bible teaches.

I'm not sure why WT even stresses this. Why does a JW need to read the Bible? The GB has the only acceptable explanations found in it, so what purpose would there be in a JW actually reading it for himself?

"Listen, obey and be blessed" says it all. A JW is merely required to parrot WT's "Bible" message, not understand it or necessarily even agree with it. If a JW does read the Bible and disagrees with WT's take on this-or-that teaching he has no recourse. He is expected to shelve his Bible knowledge and toe the line... obey like a good little unquestioning robot, nothing more. If he decides to go with his conscience, he will be summarily dismissed and shown the door.

In reality, Bible readers (more accurately, studiers) and thinkers are not welcome in WT World. The Bible is bait for the unwary, not a guidebook.

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Elder's School: 2015 KMS Program

by pixel in

good morning.

want to attend?.

kingdom ministry school.

AndDontCallMeShirley

A District Overseer told me many years ago- if you are worried -disfellowship them and worry about the appeals committee later.

So much for the theory that holy spirit guides the entire process. What a joke.

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US-Cuba diplomatic breakthrough: Obama and Castro agree to thaw relations after prisoner exchange

by fulltimestudent in

who'd have thought it possible?

but that's a headline this morning in the canberra times.. us-cuba diplomatic breakthrough: obama and castro agree to thaw relations after prisoner exchange.

date: december 18, 2014 - 5:37am.

AndDontCallMeShirley

"Directly addressing the Cuban people he said, "Today, I'm being honest with you. We can never erase the history between us, but we believe that you should be empowered to live with dignity and self-determination."

LOL.

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Wives who complain about their husbands work schedule but refuse to get a job

by hoser in

jw
friends

i listen to one of these all time in our hall.

she brings it up constantly about how they would do this or that but he has to work that saturday.

i think she should get a job and then he could find a lower paying 9 to 5 job..

AndDontCallMeShirley

That will give you an opportuntiy to apologize, admit you were wrong, remain silent or provide equally compelling data

Don't hold your breath, brother.

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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?

by Shanagirl in

has this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?

did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.

shana.

AndDontCallMeShirley

They had also tried to ask my husband to leave but I told them that wasn't happening so they said he could stay. They tried saying his presence would hinder the flow of the holy spirit.

LOL. Poor H.S. ... as ineffective as WT's god.

All because we knew the elders were covering over a guy who committed adultery and admitted it, forged a legal document... posession of an illegal firearm, domestic abuseon his wife and threatening to kill his father whom he had gotton the guns from.

Two months later two of my accusers who were related to the guy that was getting away with all this wicked stuff became elders

Just the kind of men WT is looking for. They'll make fine elders. No doubt appointed by the same holy spirit your husband was allegedly blocking. LOL.

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Many Member Just Want to Believe

by OnTheWayOut in

if you are/were an active jw, you are now here on jwn so, for whatever your reasons, you woke up to some degree- hopefully a great degree.

so what i am saying may not apply to you.. i know that if i had not already left, i would have stormed out on the day they studied "overlapping generation.

" i am quite confident i couldn't have stayed for such an obvious switcharoo just to make the end seem imminent and try to explain how wts was wrong, but not entirely wrong in the past.. but i had to wonder how that change (or others) didn't cause most jw's to walk out.

AndDontCallMeShirley

they are too invested in WTS and just have to hang on and believe. They want to believe, no matter how ridiculous the doctrine gets.

"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." -- Carl Sagan, A Demon Haunted World

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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?

by Shanagirl in

has this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?

did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.

shana.

AndDontCallMeShirley

"Of the three JC meetings I was privileged to attend..."

This is on the same level as, "it's your privilege to scrub the KH toilets today".

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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!

by snakeface in

jw
friends

yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.

well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.

even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Also, this will show householders that there is at least one JW who woke up and left.

How many thousands or tens of thousands of JWs leave each year... and non-JWs don't care or even notice?? WT is inconsequesntial to the lives of 8 billion people on this planet.

Take a vacation with your cash.

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I am going to pioneer after the holidays!

by snakeface in

jw
friends

yes, you heard right.. as you know, most christian organizations publish and distribute little tracts with their gospel message.

well they also make some that expose the lies of the wt, and explain how it is a cult.

even if people are not interested in the "gospel message" in these tracts, the tracts do a good job exposing the wt as a cult.. now, those of you who are now agnostic or athiests or just non-religious, please keep reading, to understand what i plan to do.... i am expecting to receive $$ for christmas.

AndDontCallMeShirley

... personally go door-to-door in my former territory and "work" the very same houses as I previously did.

My first impression, as a householder, would be:

"Hmmm...he came to me as a JW fully convinced he had the truth; now he's here as an ex-JW fully convinced he's found the truth. Why should I listen?"

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Wives who complain about their husbands work schedule but refuse to get a job

by hoser in

jw
friends

i listen to one of these all time in our hall.

she brings it up constantly about how they would do this or that but he has to work that saturday.

i think she should get a job and then he could find a lower paying 9 to 5 job..

AndDontCallMeShirley

Vidiot: Clearly, I've been doing it wrong.

Me too. I wish WT's world actually existed (in this case).