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  Index of acronyms : help for new forumers

  by Mary J Blige in

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  2. beliefs

  am finding a whole lot of acronyms that are really foreign to me and i now have an appreciation for what cult language sounds like to non-culters.

  wondering please if you can post your definitions so i can get up to speed.

  otherwise, as an indoctrinated ex-culter, i am inclined to create my own new light and swiftly it will be gospel.

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  BTTT - Breakfast Time and TeleTubbies??

  COBE- Coordinator of the body of darklords(elders)
  
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  My sister is being harassed by the elders

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.

  this happened more than one year ago.

  i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.

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  She should go to the police claiming these elders are stalking her. Her neighbors can serve as " two witnesses" to the fact. Then she should inform these Pharisees that they must attend a Judicial committee to deal with their crime. Let them get a taste of their own poison.
  
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  New grandson!

  by mimimimi in

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  2. family

  our youngest son and his wife (matt and star) welcomed a baby boy yesterday at 7:04 p.m. ivan tomas, 7 lbs.

  11 oz., 20 1/4" long.

  he is their second child.

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  Bonsai

  Awesome! New life brings new hope into the world. Congrats!
  
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  What started me on the path to waking up about the lies the WT teaches?

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it was a simple question: isn't jesus my "mediator" if i put faith in him like the scriptures say?

  the research to that answer, from the w79 4/1 p. 31, was mind blowing.

  how dare they deny me a belief firmly stated in the scriptures?

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  It wasn't any one doctrine in particular that disturbed me (although many doctrines did perplex me, I viewed it as a test of faith to believe them). During the last few years I began to have this subtle suspicion that we were giving too much importance to an organization. I started to feel that the JWs worship their organization like the Japanese worshiped their emperors, or the people of North Korea worshiped Kim Jong Il. That suspicion began to erode the scales covering my eyes. Seeing our esteemed (k)GB on broadcasts sealed the deal for me that this religion is unbalanced and even dangerous.
  
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  thanks jah, for her win... say serena williams?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/serena-williams-secret-weapon-jehovah-god_55a06ed9e4b0ecec71bc445b?.

  a huffington post link to an article where serena williams 'secret weapon' is you know who..... interesting read .

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  Athletes who give thanks to god when they win do irritate me to the highest degree. It's just pure stupidity to believe that god isn't interested in curing diseases, helping the poor, or stabilizing the earth's crust, but he does have time to help you win your bullshit victory so you can make a lot more money than you already have. I love the NFL, but when they point to the sky I just want to put a scorpion in their jock strap.
  
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  Are the Governing Body Members Mentally Ill?

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  data-dog: i believe that many of them would actually be considered mentally ill, if they were ever tested.. .

  great question and intriguing hypothesis.

  lets take an armchair psychologists view and see what we shall see.

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  I think they are all honest hard working men who have special communication with Jehovah while they sleep. We should be in awe of these modern day apostles! Only seven of them! How rare and precious! I once had the chance to see one of them on a big screen TV at the assembly! I even took a picture of him on my smartphone! Stephen Lett is sooo good at gestures! Brother Morris is like a modern day Paul! He speaks with such frankness and openness. Brother Splane sounds so scholarly and sophisticated! I feel like they are all like personal grandpas to me. I just love the idea that they are delving deep into the spiritual things so that I don't have to!

  To think that they are going to heaven to rule as kings over me while I'm down here being judged by them before armageddon and then tested again after armageddon fills me with such warmth. I feel so safe in knowing that Br. Morris, who is so kind hearted, will have a vote in whether I am found to be righteous or not. In my seven masters I trust! These gifts in men are like a colorful rainbow bridge to Jehovah! They even poop skittles or so I've been told!
  
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  Vacation Time! Going To A Regional?

  by millie210 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the first year i have not been at a summer assembly.. the friends here locally just got back from the regional in our area.. they mostly took their vacation time from work to attend.. while they were gone i had an epiphany...... why is it that the rank and file take their summer vacation time to attend an assembly (we have all heard this hammered in from the platform) whereas the governing body attend as part of their "work".. it cant be as simple as "well, they are giving talks" because there are many brothers that give talks from the rank and file also who have used up precious vacation hours and drug their entire family there plus give their parts.. or what about other brothers and sisters who volunteer and clean at the assembly.

  on vacation.. so the pubs.

  travel at their own expense, pay for their own rooms and food, and give parts and it is supposed to be viewed as their vacation.. the gb and c.o.s travel to the same assembly and stay in provided for accomadations, give a talk or two and they are "working".. what is that about?.

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  After the last few assemblies I'd be driving home and reviewing in my head what timely, refreshing things I'd learned that weekend: got to go out in service more, need to improve the quality of my service, apostates are dangerous! Need to simplify my life more, need to have more faith etc. What new things did I actually learn? That only the (k)GB are the FDS! Oh happifying! Halellujah!

  My last RC was when I had a huge WTF moment. It dawned on me that I'm not learning shit even though the bible promised there would be seasons of refreshing and the light would be getting brighter and brighter. Nope. Just do more, simplify more and be happy! It was like plugging my battery into a charger only the charger was draining an already dying battery!

  To be fair, visiting with people I normally didn't have a chance to see was nice. But what I had actually learned that had meaningful, stimulating substance from 2011-2014 was a total sum of zero.
  
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  If you were told today you would die next week, would you be happy and fine with that?

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. friends

  i don't know how so many who seem to be certain this life is it after being jw's seem to happily accept it and be fine with it.

  i am living and trying to live as if this is it.

  i want there to be a future life/afterlife, something, but i see how fast life comes and goes and even if i'm living it to the fullest, there is no peace for me with the thought this may be it.

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  I feel like I'm living from week to week with no idea what the next week will bring anymore, so I guess nothing would really change. Perhaps a sense of peace would wash over me knowing that time is up and my ending has been decided. Every day is precious consciousness.
  

  
  
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  Has any apostate ever lied at a JC about being apostate?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i watched/ listened to the brave and courageous souls on youtube who bravely recorded their jc's.

  you really see a different and horrid side to the elders there.

  it might sound whimpy but i don't think i would be able to stand strong like those guys did.

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  I refuse to be called or accept that I am an apostate. I know some here wear the title like a badge of honor or courage, but I find the label offensive, childish, mid-evil age and all around despicable. In order for you to be an apostate, they would first have to have truth on their side. They are the ones who have protected pedophiles, engaged in false prophecy, implemented harmful, Pharisaical policies etc.

  If and when I ever have to go to a JC, I'll be sure to make their ears bleed before it's done and over with. If it comes to the point where you are being ushered into a JC meeting, in almost all instances, they have already lined up witnesses against you and the game is up. Make sure to confirm this, though. If they DONT have witnesses against you, and are just playing on a hunch, then it would be appropriate to withhold pertinent information from them. If they do have the 2,3 witnesses then there is no reason to lie my friend. Don't give the elders hard-ons by cowering before them.
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  Reliable source - new round of US Bethel layoffs coming soon

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  was talking to an ex-bethelite who is still very well-connected to those in the ivory tower.. he says that there will soon be a(nother) large number of us bethelites who will be "reassigned to the field" as pioneers and special pioneers.. he did not give his source, but he is pretty reliable.

  incidentally, he was "reassigned to the field" in the last big purge about 7 years ago.. i imagine those so reassigned would be pretty teed off.

  let go just before the golden lakeshore palace was completed..

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  Young ones, if you want to stay at Bethel, go to college and get a valuable skill first. If you have that skill, Bethel will keep you on. If you don't have any special skills, they will send you packing in 2 to 5 years.

  They might bray, piss and moan about the dangers of getting a college education, but secretly they want you to get one-especially in the legal field- so you can help protect their negligent asses.