Welcome! Hope your hubby can eventually see the light, too. I remember how hard it was on my wife when I quit, cold turkey, last fall. Now she's by my side! Take it slow, keep showing patience, love and respect to your hubby and good things will happen!
Bonsai
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New Inactive One Saying Hello to all
by Lostwun inlostwun here, i joined 2 months ago but am now just finding the courage after doing more research to formally introduce myself to the board and embrace my new beginnings as an ex-jw.
i am a second-generation jw.
i grew up with parents who are well known and very respected in many circuits.
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I watched Mr. Jackson last night with my super cult minded parents
by Magwitch ini have seen some ask on this site how the active jw's are handling what is happening in australia.
here is my little experience from last night........ my parents were baptized in the late 30's as children and have never faltered in their determination to survive the great tribulation and live forever in paradise (even though they actively associate with all their df'ed kids).
my father is still actively serving as an elder and my mother has always been by his side.
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Bonsai
Magwitch, your experience confirms my worst fears - that this testimony only serves to heighten the zeal and obedience of the sheep to the magnificent seven in Brooklyn. I was really hoping that the sex abuse problems would weaken the hero worship status of the Watchtower leaders. I was hoping it would expose the inappropriate, even dangerous, unchecked power that the Watchtower leaders have over their flock. It was also my hope that the mishandling of sex abuse cases would spill over into the abuse that is caused by the organization's shunning, isolating and unusually cruel punishment policies.
It seems that Jackson was able to pull the wool over many people's eyes because of his skillfully cherry-picking scriptures to support the society's arcane policies. The whole thing leaves me feeling disappointed and unsatisfied. Kudos to you for the respect you have shown your parents, though.
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exJW Psychology 102--How to Ask a Question When Questions Aren't Allowed
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite innow that enough time has passed and i've moved away, i think i'm overdue to share some of the stories from my fade.
i've mentioned some of this before, but i think it deserves its own thread.. we all would like to be able to freely ask questions about jw beliefs and get our family and friends to really think about certain questions.
however, when you're a baptized jw, you really can't ask any good questions or you'll get the "apostate" label slapped on you!
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In the RC public hearing, Geoffrey Jackson apologized a dozen times for various reasons. He thus demonstrated the GB has an ability to apologize.Why then, have the GB never apologized to the sheep for harmful mistakes that they made?
A good question to put to a JW.
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Labeling one self "Atheist" is Unscientific
by LAWHFol ini have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.
i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.
"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
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Bonsai
I think atheists are immoral! The bible says they are bad!
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What Do I Smell Like (Happy Friday All)
by freemindfade inso i just smoked a cigar, then came back into the office to wash it down with some bourbon... for whatever reason i was telling cappy what i smell like now, here is the list, please add your own .
fmf: .
i smell like an old leather chair in a civl war era library .
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Bonsai
I smell like the sushi and sashimi that I just ate. Something smells fishy!
Bourbon and sushi - the stuff heaven is made of.
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Mr Jackson said the GB has apologized in the past?
by notsurewheretogo inplease enlighten me as to where and when...
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When the GB are roped in to a government committee hearing, did you see how eager Jackson was to kowtow before Mcllelan and Stewart? Over and over he said, "My apologies your honor...". "I'm sorry" or "I'm sorry for misunderstanding the question" etc.
A classic case of being two-faced. A humble, concerned, even apologetic face for the secular authorities and a smug, pompous face for the lowly sheeples.
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GEOFFREY JACKSON and the JUNCTION of DYSFUNCTION
by Terry inin the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.. _____________________.
in the watchtower society, there is a point where heaven and earth meet.. 100+ years of historical evidence will show it is a junction of dysfunction; a mental construct; a shadow of imagination indwelling like a spirit of possession.. the shaman who invoke this shadow spirit are seven men in number; an elite cadre of self-described anointed kings and priests whose ultimate destination is heaven itself.. or so they are eager to insist!.
while cloaking themselves in the ragged raiment of mere slaves, their actions, words and deeds betray this subterfuge.
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Good points Terry.
Lord Jackson didn't really get animated and come to life until Stewart asked him if there was any scriptural precedent for the JW's shunning arrangement. "Why yes Mr. Stewart, thank you for allowing me to delve into that point. In the bible I would like to show you..."Then, hilariously, Stewart cut him off and changed the direction of the topic. It was obvious that the issue of shunning and control gave Jackson an instant hard on and his dead fish eyes immediately came to life.
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Mr Jackson said the GB has apologized in the past?
by notsurewheretogo inplease enlighten me as to where and when...
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If you could ask Geoffrey Jackson one question that he had to answer what would it be?
by jwleaks inwhat question would you ask geoffrey jackson, as a member of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, to answer?
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jw leaks.
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Bonsai
Do you have any proof that God has communicated with you and appointed you as the undisputed, unchallenged leaders of Christ's followers on earth?
Was there any reason other than obtaining a library card for the Watchtower leaders to become NGO members with the scarlet beast?
Pertaining to the RC: Why don't you make reporting sex abuse mandatory so that trained professionals can make sure the situation is handled properly?
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Geoffrey Jackson. Seems he will be compelled to front up.
by umbertoecho inpray for brother jackson of the governing body!.
in todays news from australia it appears that, despite his previous declination to appear when invited, justice mcclellan from the australian royal commission on child sex abuse will officially summon brother geoffrey jackson to the stand after all.. ..... the commission was due to conclude its hearings into the jehovahs witnesses on wednesday but justice mcclellan said he will now call geoffrey jackson, a senior member of the churchs governing body in new york who is currently in australia, to appear next week.. .
source.
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They are gonna need lots of extra seats in the courtroom for his body guards, his helper, his lawyers and his psychiatrist.
I seriously doubt he has the sack to show up. If he does, here is what i would ask:
How do you, the GB, make policies? Is it by a majority vote?
Were you appointed by the holy spirit or by men? Are you inspired prophets?
If inspired, how does god communicate with you? Did he tell you directly to keep the "two witness rule" when dealing with an abuse accusation? Or are you just enforcing a bronze age rule to deal with complicated modern problems?
Mr. Jackson, your religion is responsible for breaking up families, isolating and shunning those that disagree with your ever changing doctrine, and protecting pedophiles from getting the punishment, rehabilitation that they need from trained law enforcement. How do you respond to this current reality?