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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

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  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  This is what happens to attention whores when they get tired of being attention whores. Sayonara.
  
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  Seeking support ... Where can a Christian go

  by Sevan in

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  hey all, .

  so i recently posted for the first time and introduced myself.. i have been spending time reading various posts.

  some informative, some not so much.. since i've been reading on here, i've read a lot from atheists.

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  However, I do not feel that I have the right to judge God. He is our Creator and as such has the right to define the rules. He knows many things that we do not and must therefore have reasons for everything that we may not be privy to.

  What riles me is that people like you write this conjecture as if it is established fact just as the sun is hot and the ice caps are cold. That arrogance is such a turn off for me to endeavor to be nice to believers. If God has his reasons for not only allowing, but designing events that have led to the death of millions of innocent children, why is it that he cannot clearly state what is reasons are for doing so are? Creationists always fall back to their last defense: God has his unknowable, logical reasons for why all these natural, horrific disasters occur. Think about that for a moment. If god is god, wouldn't he be able to clearly explain why he allows for and EVEN CAUSES these things to happen?
  
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  Seeking support ... Where can a Christian go

  by Sevan in

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  2. friends

  hey all, .

  so i recently posted for the first time and introduced myself.. i have been spending time reading various posts.

  some informative, some not so much.. since i've been reading on here, i've read a lot from atheists.

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  Bonsai

  I always get to these threads as they are winding down, but I'll throw my threepence into the discussion.

  Your beliefs are your beliefs and we can respect that. I don't think anyone demands anyone to change their beliefs on here. We just simply demand each other to look at the evidence as objectively as possible and make educated decisions based on that evidence.

  I come here mostly to vent about the harmful things that JWs and religion in general are doing to mankind. I come here to provide encouragement and share my personal experiences on how I'm overcoming the Watchtower cult. I don't come here to support beliefs based on faith as I see no inherent or intrinsic value in faith.
  

  It amazes me how anyone can look at the natural world around us, observe how every species is dependent on killing another species to survive (survival of the fittest), the earthquakes, tornadoes, typhoons, tsunamis, disease carrying bugs, viruses and killer bacterias and amoebas, the mass extinctions of the ancient past AND STILL SEE A LOVING CREATOR despite all of that. That is delusion at its very essence.
  
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  Great Tribulation alert?: Russia signs new restrictions that bans almost all forms of religious preaching outside recognized churches.

  by redpilltwice in

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  this morning, my wife showed me this online article (written yesterday evening july 11, 2016) from dutch newspaper "trouw":.

  http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/4716/christendom/article/detail/4337852/2016/07/11/rusland-verbiedt-thuiskerken-en-meeste-geloofsverkondiging.dhtml.

  to me, this seems to be one serious step further, and together with the convention bunker video's it will surely fuel the persecution-syndrome and expectations of the great tribulation even more than it already did!

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  I'm loving Russia more and more. Might be time for a long vacation there. Now if only the rest of the world will follow suit!
  
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  European Champions of Football (Soccer) !!!

  by EdenOne in

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  this one went to the underdog!!.

  go portugal!!!!!.

  wohoooooo!!!!!!!.

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  When you have ice hockey, basketball, baseball and the NFL (real football), who needs soccer?

  Make the nets wider so they score more goals and I might start paying attention.
  
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  New Here ... Just woke up

  by Sevan in

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  hey all, .

  this is my first post.

  i haven't been out in service or to a meeting in over a month.. i realize now that i've been having serious questions for years and many articles and talks have greatly disturbed me over the years.

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  Welcome Sevan! I would very much like to DA myself as well, but out of respect for my inactive wife and her relationship with her family (who are still in) I can't at this time. I guess we need to be patient for our loved ones. This religion is sick the way it pits families against each other. Sooner or later, when its broken up enough families, proclaimed enough false prophecies, shielded enough pedophiles and caused enough suicides this cult is going down and going down hard.
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  Did I open the gate to the realm of demons?

  by redpilltwice in

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  2. experiences

  this is what happened.

  i had a sore tendon in my wrist.

  i could work with it, but nevertheless the pain was there.

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  Really fascinating thread and experiences! I live in Japan, where there are many places deep in mountains called "power spots". People go there and are often fully, or at least, temporarily healed physically (or is it mental healing which has a physical affect?) There are magnetic rocks that have therapeutic effects on the different ailments that especially the elderly have in their later years.

  I hear the Japanese talk about these places all the time with wonder and reverence. If that many people swear by their good experiences there, then perhaps there is something to the power and healing effects of these places. I am, admittedly skeptical, though.
  
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  I think a perfect alternative is secular humanism and wildlife conservation. What could be more noble or simple or gratifying than those ideals? You can help funnel money into the Watchtower real estate/ publishing corporation OR you could actually do something specific, beneficial and productive to help this planet and your fellow man. What's not to like?
  
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  Guess who is getting announced as no longer being a JW

  by atacrossroads in

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  not me surprisingly.

  i thought i would be the one to go first.

  this coming week my hubby is being announced as no longer being a jw.

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  What better way to wake people up to the fact that this is a cult than by putting your kangaroo court trial on youtube for all to see? I'd encourage your husband to attend his JC, record it and put it online for exposure.

  It was such a shocker for me to see some of those videos. No matter how good the defense was of the accused, the elders didn't care. Their unflinching loyalty to the doctrines put in place by seven men in New York proves beyond a doubt this is a Pharisaical, harshly dogmatic cult led by merciless businessmen.
  
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  Don't believe anyone is up there listening - said a prayer anyway out of sense of obligation

  by Zoos in

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  i've read many statements on this forum from people who have expressed the sentiment that you don't shove ttatt down the throat of an older person.

  it would be too traumatic and its best to let some people, in some situations, simply pass on in the delusion.. its humane.

  merciful.. in the initial roar of my awakening, i was unable to cuddle up to that sentiment; preferring, instead, to shove the blood curdling shock of truth down the throat of anyone i could get my grip on... age be dammed.

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  I can't believed you caved in! You can no longer call yourself a faithful and devote atheist.

  Just kidding! You made the right call in my book. Nothing trumps mercy and compassion, and it is out of a sense of mercy, compassion and tolerance that many of us shed our intolerant religious superstitions.

  It can be too inhumane to rip the opium from elderly people who would die or go insane without it.