when answering door ask jw what is the youngest age that they have heard of their young ones getting baptised.
response will be between 7-14 depending on there mental capacity to recall.
then proceed to ask if this young one later in life joins another religion is there any sanctions .
Let's make this a door stopper series thread.
Door stopper #2: What have JW's ever gotten right independent of what any other religion has predicted? Answer: Nothing. Every unique prediction or interpretation of the bible that they have ever made has either not come to pass, or ended up being demonstrably false.
i've taken the bible lessons but have never attended a kingdom hall.
i was curious as to what point they begin to tighten the screws of control?
let's say you're a baptist.
Their fatal flaw is that they believe God has chosen them when God has not even been in touch with them.
The irony of this statement is dripping, spilling, flooding, no, overflowing out everywhere!
for my first shunniversary i reached out to the local ex-dubs that i know.
i invited 11 total to join me in a little get together at a local restaurant, then back to my house to hang out.
one friend asked if he could invite others, and i encouraged him, and all, to do so.
Exactly what Stan-the-man LiveDeath said. In my experience I have found that most want to move on and forget about that wasted chapter of their lives.
..........according to these wtbts's literature quotes:god’s word is heavy with doom, announcing christendom’s imminent destruction; .
christendom is a fake "kingdom of the heavens" and is full of badness; .
christendom, professing love for jesus, actually rejects him; .
It IS doomed. Not by any god, but by the thinking, rational man.
at the moment i dont beleive in anything.
im pretty much an open book, but my critical mind is very alert to bullshit.
but anyway i decided to re-read the bible with a non jw filter.. i researched online first which is supposed to be the best translation out there.
It amazes me how anyone can be proud to call themselves a Catholic, as if it's a more admirable position than being a tiny cult like JWland.. It's amazing, a miracle really, that anyone can do research on the history of the catholic church and still want to be affiliated with that cesspool of filth. The Vatican and all its gold is literally built on the blood and gore and gullibility of the common man who knew no better than to trust someone who calls himself a pope and dresses in white pajamas. It took the Catholic church over a millenium to figure out how to stop acting like ISIS.
Edit: Didn't notice that there are 3 more pages to this thread!
at the moment i dont beleive in anything.
im pretty much an open book, but my critical mind is very alert to bullshit.
but anyway i decided to re-read the bible with a non jw filter.. i researched online first which is supposed to be the best translation out there.
Hiemere, first of all, I want to commend you for all your efforts to make the world a better place. It must be so difficult to translate using sign language. I tried learning sign and quickly gave up.
I focus on what I can do in the classroom. I am constantly endeavoring to teach children the importance of our environment and its ever dwindling resources. I am part of a group that engages in rare butterfly conservation and protecting natural habitats from logging and misuse.
I would like to do more, but with kids and a full-time job - I do what I can.
Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao etc. didn't do what they did because they were atheists. They did what they did because they were evil people. You can't blame anything on atheism. You CAN blame a mountain load of the worlds problems on religion and the delusional, irresponsible, often times fanatical teachings that numerous religions promote.
Religion and atheism are not the same thing. Atheism is merely the absence of belief in something without verifiable, testable facts. In time. religion will stop stunting the growth of humanity and hopefully go the way of the Dodo.
i still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.
so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.
now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.
Meeting with the elders will not resolve anything. They are coming into the meeting under the absolute, irrefutable premise that Watchtower's involvement was just to get a library card and not for political reasons. Not accepting that will only make you a target and probably get you marked for believing in "apostate lies". Good luck.
at the moment i dont beleive in anything.
im pretty much an open book, but my critical mind is very alert to bullshit.
but anyway i decided to re-read the bible with a non jw filter.. i researched online first which is supposed to be the best translation out there.
So what do you recommend Hiemere? We should all just give up, embrace our inevitable animalistic tendencies and not affiliate with anything? Would it please you to go back to the stone age or mid evil times? Surely you don't believe that every human organization is carnal and only looking out for its best interests do you? What are you doing to make the world a better place?
jesus drifted amongst the lowly folk .
John Cedars managed to have a one-on-one chat with A. Morris by phone for about one minute, then Morris hung up like the coward he is.
i'm thinking in emigrating... i feel like i'm stuck here in chile, and going likely to canada (i have my aunt and cousins there, full citizens) is like a real option by now.... i feel like i'm stuck and that in a best scenario i will be starting at the bottom of the pit, with about 75.000 (usd) in university debt (from 3 different sources) that won't go away easy, broken family, unstable relations with my mother, i think that i've almost got over the jw issue, but the consequences on my life being a born in are severe.... this saturday will be my second appointment with the therapist, i'm trying to figure out how to put things in order by now, my due date is december, to make any decisions... i finished almost to 5th year of dentistry, roughly 2 years remained but couldn't handle the family struggle, suicide attempts, getting out the wt, 4 house moves in 3 years, my father not paying a nickel for the university... i supported my mother to my own detriment, she's coming out of borderline personality disorder and i think she's a lot better but im tired... .
...as i'm "almost" a dentist i work from time to time with some patients (friends, ex-univsity patients), i've done a lot of crowns, surgeries, fillings etc to earn some money at my brother in-law clinic)... but i got kicked out of university for failing to complete some clinical requirements because of lack of patients in the previous courses, i just hadn't the force to try harder... studying was clearly not a priority by then, and as i used to be a good student just didn't know all the rules about failing courses... well that is, i just wanted to vent a little....
Yep, I've felt like that. I had to drop everything and reset my life even as an active, zealous JDub. I left the U.S. for better opportunities, first in Taiwan, then in Japan. I don't regret the decisions I made. You only live once, so you need to do what you need to do to put yourself in the best situation to succeed. Cut out the riffraff in life and keep the ones who are supportive of you and what you want to do.
