it seems incredibly difficult.
those who leave the org.
(or fade) no longer have anything in common with jehovah's witnesses, nor do they want to stick around to get radiated by the fear and guilt that saturates every aspect of a witnesses' life.. i've lost all but one of my jw friends quite simply because i can no longer condone the evil things that they condone.
Wow. I woke up this morning to find all these great replies and various advice. It really helps.
When I left this organization, I thought I could take some of the good things with me, but I see now that it is just impossible. It takes everything from you until there is nothing left. I still can't believe that my best friend would view the blood doctrine as more important than my friendship with him.
I hate what this religion does to people!
it seems incredibly difficult.
those who leave the org.
(or fade) no longer have anything in common with jehovah's witnesses, nor do they want to stick around to get radiated by the fear and guilt that saturates every aspect of a witnesses' life.. i've lost all but one of my jw friends quite simply because i can no longer condone the evil things that they condone.
LOL Outlaw! So I'm learning. My last and best friend who is in just exploded at me when I showed him the article of an African woman who died after refusing a blood transfusion. She left behind nine children. He attacked the writer of the articles motive and he lashed out at me for sharing with him the article. I don't think our friendship is going to survive this latest salvo.
It's so hard to not burn bridges with these people...
it seems incredibly difficult.
those who leave the org.
(or fade) no longer have anything in common with jehovah's witnesses, nor do they want to stick around to get radiated by the fear and guilt that saturates every aspect of a witnesses' life.. i've lost all but one of my jw friends quite simply because i can no longer condone the evil things that they condone.
It seems incredibly difficult. Those who leave the org. (or fade) no longer have anything in common with Jehovah's Witnesses, nor do they want to stick around to get radiated by the fear and guilt that saturates every aspect of a witnesses' life.
I've lost all but one of my JW friends quite simply because I can no longer condone the evil things that they condone. Even if I could, we no longer have anything in common. I have one last friendship hanging by a thread. How can I keep it? How have you managed to keep your friendships if at all?
referring to tim3l0rd who posted 12 days ago following message (see below) and the postings in which the "scattered" non organised anointed from 100 ce - 1900 ce are discussed, and the parabel of the weed among the wheat, i found out that it is not necessary at all that a "slave class" of anointed does itself distincts frome the weed , founds a new separated church,declares itself clean and holy, and begins a denunciating and destructive unnecessary harvesting.
the slave class of anointed should have better remained in the church and waited for jesus judgement.basis: .
tim310rd wrote: this goes along with the 2013 wt that changed the definition of the fdsl.
I'd like to point out that wheat is good, but weed is way better! I thank god incessantly for all the wonderful variety of herbs we have at our disposal!
so that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.
i was born in the truth most of my family is in.
although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.
This religion is a slow death dealing cancer. It provides false hope, conditional love and loads of fear, obligation and guilt. It causes severe depression and suicides, breaks up families and teaches you to be a judgmental, elitist ignoramus.
I literally do see dead bodies everywhere as I can't get their teachings out of my head sometimes. The sooner you stand up to the bull sh#t, the sooner you can clear your conscience, and live the remainder of your life on your own terms as an independent moral agent contributing to society.
What worked for me was moving to a new cong and rejecting the appointment privately. Get busy making new friends outside of this org so as to smooth the transition from cult friends to genuine human being friends.
the awake on "hope for the homelessness" was one of the worse illustrations how the cult has no love for anyone that can't provide donations to further this spiritual ponzi scheme!
the premise of this awake made no sense, i've read many books and took classes on social issues affecting mankind, the awake does not help fix the problem.
what did this magazine offer those who are suffering the humiliation of living out of their cars or "tent city" or under a bridge?
If you live each day like it's the last day of your life in this world, then you are bound to put a lot of important things off. You eat junk food because you don't care about the long-term effects. You unplug from reality because it no longer holds any concrete significance for you.You ignore the current problems such as homelessness, pollution etc.
JWs as a whole, have lived this way for over 130 years! The garbage has built up, the rust is showing and there are leaks everywhere in the JWmobile. The host (this world) is starting to reject the parasite (JWs) after many many years of blood sucking.
a witness friend wanted to meet up recently and talk.
since this person was a close friend and who i thought had a level head, i'd go ahead and speak with him.
our conversation actually helped me figure a few things out not only for myself but also about the witnesses.. so we're talking and i'm telling him my experience and the doctrines that i disagreed with as well as the scandals that made me disgusted with the organization.
You hit the nail right on the head. If you try and wake them up then they will throw the hammer right back at you. No amount of logic, reason, scripture will wake them up if they are satisfied with their situation. No matter how many things I have shared with my still in friend, no matter how much he himself complains, he still in the end says all these things are "cause for concern but not cause for alarm."
GB gestapo fanatical foot soldiers is what they are! Hail the glorious GB of God!
as of this june (i've already given my may contributions which are substantial) i am no longer giving money to support useless building projects that serve no good purpose.
i am no longer giving money at conventions or assemblies.
i am no longer giving money toward the circuit overseers upkeep.
he kind of invited me to a barbecue or something, and asked if my parents wanted to come along as well.
it felt really awkard, i mean i am 20++.
i was sceptic, so he told me he would send me a sms about an other fitting day instead.i probably didnt look too happy about that either, so he told me that maybe he could invite some other in the group.
The minute they break you down into an explanation they own you, because then they can judge if your explanation is worthy. Don't give them that power.
These words by LisaRose are so true. I wish I had learned that before I did what I did. It would have saved me a lot of frustration, pain and bitterness. You are so wise to their ways Lisa.
he kind of invited me to a barbecue or something, and asked if my parents wanted to come along as well.
it felt really awkard, i mean i am 20++.
i was sceptic, so he told me he would send me a sms about an other fitting day instead.i probably didnt look too happy about that either, so he told me that maybe he could invite some other in the group.
