Posts by Bonsai

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Lurker - just joined

by Je.suis.oisif in

hi all, nothing to report just now.

wanted to add name to list of those awakening.

been lurking for nearly a year.

Who Really is ..... The Blood Washed Multitude (Great Crowd) ?

by Perry in

for jw's the issue has never been who the faithful and wise servant (f&ds) was.

that is just misdirection and sleight of hand.

it is plain from the context that this was obviously a rhetorical question meant for self introspection.

Maybe that blood washed multitude crowd consists of all those who murdered and were murdered in the name of the son and his father.. 5,000 years of blood, genocide, mayhem and human sacrifices make it a number too numerous to count. But who the hell cares right? So long as you get your piece of heaven.

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What were you favorite book in the organization? I know what you're thinking...LOL!

by BashfulAshG in

what were *your favorite *books in the organization?.

out of all of those books, i liked "mankind's search for god.

" however, it appears to me that this book is incredibly obscure and no one recalls studying it during the old book study format.

Bonsai

Commentary of James.

It blew my mind when I found out that it was mainly researched and written by Ed Dunlap.

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Introducing Myself

by Peony in

i've finally got round to joining the site (after over 2 years lurking!

i was born into jws, pioneered for 10 years (met my husband at pioneer school).

had health issues that saw me catapulted away from 'the centre of the cong' and wow what a different place that was!

Bonsai

Looking forward to discussing lots of topics with you on the forum. Welcome!

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Why Me?

by John Aquila in

do you ever wonder why out of all the witnesses, you are the one that woke up?

i wonder many times why me.

i know many men and women that are much, much better persons than me; either they are much smarter, more humble, kinder, more successful, or just better persons all around.

Bonsai

Circumstances also play a large role in not only awakening, but taking it a step further and separating oneself from the high control group. Living in a foreign country gave me the chance to look at things from an outside perspective. Having some free time (not much to do socially out here) gave me a chance to do research.

Knowing that the majority of my family would still have a relationship with me even if I left gave me the courage to pursue my questions and doubts and act on them.

Many are so busy on the organizational hampster wheel that they don't have time to reflect on what they truly feel. Others are impossibly entangled socially with their family and their employment all being in the witness social structure.

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Let your name be spanktified

by oppostate in

lol!

the subbing wt conductor just stumbled over the title of the wt study and said "let your name be spanktified.

let your name be spp... stank... sanctified".. all right, so everyone gets tongue tied at some point, if we don't use the words we read as part of our daily vocabulary.

Bonsai

LOL

Lots of Japanese people can't pronounce "spirit" so they end up saying "spit".

"Please pour your holy spit upon us so that we are guided by your spit in our daily life".

I'd start giggling during the prayer until my wife jabbed me in the side.

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have you been moved by something you have read.

by Sabin in

i found this book by carmel reilly, it`s called dear god.

childrens letters to god from around the world.

i promise you that if you are having a bad day this book what ever your believes will lift your spirits.

Bonsai

Where the Red Fern Grows was one of the most moving books that I ever read as an adolescent. Life takes from us the things we love, but it gives to us new things that we come to love.

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Why Me?

by John Aquila in

do you ever wonder why out of all the witnesses, you are the one that woke up?

i wonder many times why me.

i know many men and women that are much, much better persons than me; either they are much smarter, more humble, kinder, more successful, or just better persons all around.

Bonsai

Good points Caleb. Survivor's guilt plays all kinds of roles in us waking up. I always questioned myself, as a witness, why I had "the truth" and was in line for survival when there were others on this planet who were much nicer, kinder, smarter and all around better people than I. Yet 98% of those people were in line to be destroyed at Armageddon because they couldn't accept our teachings of the bible.

That bothered me to my core. Why should I survive and rebuilt a paradise over the corpses of better people, people MORE deserving of life than I was? I could never understand how witnesses could be so content to believe that this incoming genocide from heaven was just,right and rational. To me, this world is like the modern day Nineveh. The majority of humans on the planet (or actually all of them) do not know their right hand from their left in regards to what is supposed to be the ultimate spiritual truth.

I dont know if you felt the same way as a witness John, but I did. I asked, why me? as a witness and why me even now.

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The Org is terrified of apostates

by SecretSlaveClass in

i knew apostasy was a serious concern for the org, but until i watched this video, i had no idea how afraid they actually were.

all this guy wants is to do is not turn in his fs hours and immediately they (elders) set about drilling him about who are what influenced his decision, as if he was incapable of making his own (which as the elders confirm, in the org is highly discouraged).

they are convinced he has been communicating with apostates or visiting apostate web sites.

Bonsai

Instruction of GIVING. Matthew 6:1-4....What we do, must be done from an inward principle, that we may be approved of God, not that we may be praised of men. In these verses we are cautioned against hypocrisy in giving alms, which would having nothing to do with reporting the field service.

You're right SimonSays. Giving alms is, at least, doing something. Going out in field service and also reporting your time is equal to giving nothing. It literally doesn't benefit people at all. JW's do nothing for anyone. Good point!

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Mr. Geoffrey William Jackson = Humpty Dumpty

by kepler in

when i use a word, humpty dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, it means just what i choose it to mean neither more nor less.. .

the question is, said alice, whether you can make words mean so many different things.. .

the question is, said humpty dumpty, which is to be master thats all.

Bonsai

8 A. So, your Honour, you will notice there is an asterisk

9 there on the term "rod", and you see the footnote.

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11 Q. Yes.

12 A. "Discipline or punishment". So in the application of

13 this, the term "rod" is used as a symbol or a metaphor to

14 indicate the authority to give some punishment. For

15 example, in a modern‐day setting, my father could say to me

16 I don't go to the movies because I had broken some of the

17 rules of the home.

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19 Q. So it's not about inflicting corporal punishment,

20 then?

21 A. It absolutely is not about inflicting corporal

22 punishment.

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24 Q. It would have been when first written, wouldn't it?

25 A. How people applied it back then, at that time, of

26 course is open to question.

There is no way in hell that when Proverbs 13:34 was written, "rod" was metaphorical in nature. We are talking about a culture that actually stoned disobedient ones.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 ESV

“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Would it be far fetched to believe that those who would willingly stone someone for their rebelliousness would not also unleash the rod on their children as well?

Nice try GJ.