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  What is the purpose of life?

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. beliefs

  while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

  because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

  i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

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  The purpose of life?

  Why does there have to be a purpose?

  Does a worm go about wondering what the purpose of its life is?

  Would knowing it had a purpose make the worm change its lifestyle?

  Life is for living, then you die.
  
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  Ultimate door stopper

  by Chook in

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  2. experiences

  when answering door ask jw what is the youngest age that they have heard of their young ones getting baptised.

  response will be between 7-14 depending on there mental capacity to recall.

  then proceed to ask if this young one later in life joins another religion is there any sanctions .

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  Let's make this a door stopper series thread.

  Door stopper #2: What have JW's ever gotten right independent of what any other religion has predicted? Answer: Nothing. Every unique prediction or interpretation of the bible that they have ever made has either not come to pass, or ended up being demonstrably false.
  
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  Taking the Bible Lessons And Going To a KH For First Time

  by Cold Steel in

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  2. beliefs

  i've taken the bible lessons but have never attended a kingdom hall.

  i was curious as to what point they begin to tighten the screws of control?

  let's say you're a baptist.

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  Their fatal flaw is that they believe God has chosen them when God has not even been in touch with them.

  The irony of this statement is dripping, spilling, flooding, no, overflowing out everywhere!
  

  
  
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  How successful are others at getting ex-dubs together?

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for my first shunniversary i reached out to the local ex-dubs that i know.

  i invited 11 total to join me in a little get together at a local restaurant, then back to my house to hang out.

  one friend asked if he could invite others, and i encouraged him, and all, to do so.

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  Exactly what Stan-the-man LiveDeath said. In my experience I have found that most want to move on and forget about that wasted chapter of their lives.
  
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  CHRISTENDOM is doomed...........

  by The Searcher in

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  ..........according to these wtbts's literature quotes:god’s word is heavy with doom, announcing christendom’s imminent destruction; .

  christendom is a fake "kingdom of the heavens" and is full of badness; .

  christendom, professing love for jesus, actually rejects him; .

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  It IS doomed. Not by any god, but by the thinking, rational man.
  
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  Reading The Bible Again After Leaving

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  at the moment i dont beleive in anything.

  im pretty much an open book, but my critical mind is very alert to bullshit.

  but anyway i decided to re-read the bible with a non jw filter.. i researched online first which is supposed to be the best translation out there.

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  It amazes me how anyone can be proud to call themselves a Catholic, as if it's a more admirable position than being a tiny cult like JWland.. It's amazing, a miracle really, that anyone can do research on the history of the catholic church and still want to be affiliated with that cesspool of filth. The Vatican and all its gold is literally built on the blood and gore and gullibility of the common man who knew no better than to trust someone who calls himself a pope and dresses in white pajamas. It took the Catholic church over a millenium to figure out how to stop acting like ISIS.

  Edit: Didn't notice that there are 3 more pages to this thread!
  
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  Reading The Bible Again After Leaving

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  at the moment i dont beleive in anything.

  im pretty much an open book, but my critical mind is very alert to bullshit.

  but anyway i decided to re-read the bible with a non jw filter.. i researched online first which is supposed to be the best translation out there.

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  Hiemere, first of all, I want to commend you for all your efforts to make the world a better place. It must be so difficult to translate using sign language. I tried learning sign and quickly gave up.

  I focus on what I can do in the classroom. I am constantly endeavoring to teach children the importance of our environment and its ever dwindling resources. I am part of a group that engages in rare butterfly conservation and protecting natural habitats from logging and misuse.

  I would like to do more, but with kids and a full-time job - I do what I can.

  Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao etc. didn't do what they did because they were atheists. They did what they did because they were evil people. You can't blame anything on atheism. You CAN blame a mountain load of the worlds problems on religion and the delusional, irresponsible, often times fanatical teachings that numerous religions promote.

  Religion and atheism are not the same thing. Atheism is merely the absence of belief in something without verifiable, testable facts. In time. religion will stop stunting the growth of humanity and hopefully go the way of the Dodo.
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  meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.

  so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.

  now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.

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  Meeting with the elders will not resolve anything. They are coming into the meeting under the absolute, irrefutable premise that Watchtower's involvement was just to get a library card and not for political reasons. Not accepting that will only make you a target and probably get you marked for believing in "apostate lies". Good luck.
  
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  Reading The Bible Again After Leaving

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. bible

  at the moment i dont beleive in anything.

  im pretty much an open book, but my critical mind is very alert to bullshit.

  but anyway i decided to re-read the bible with a non jw filter.. i researched online first which is supposed to be the best translation out there.

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  So what do you recommend Hiemere? We should all just give up, embrace our inevitable animalistic tendencies and not affiliate with anything? Would it please you to go back to the stone age or mid evil times? Surely you don't believe that every human organization is carnal and only looking out for its best interests do you? What are you doing to make the world a better place?
  
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  What are the chances of having a one on one with GB member

  by Chook in

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  2. experiences

  jesus drifted amongst the lowly folk .

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  John Cedars managed to have a one-on-one chat with A. Morris by phone for about one minute, then Morris hung up like the coward he is.