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  Do other churches use the name Jehovah?

  by barry in

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  i have seen on this site recordings of jw elders at tribunal meetings claim other churches hate the name jehovah.

  one former baptist now jw elder said other churches hate the name and never use it.

  please look at the following and there are many more hymns not included than these.

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  Marvin. good point.

  the wt org is now bringing reproach on the name of Jehovah.

  Jamaicans use Jah.

  Just googled it and found a site www.bible.ca which states jw's abuse the name. It says jw's falsely altered the Bible and put in God's name into the NT, and it shouldn't be there. I never knew this.

  It says there isn't even a J in Hebrew , greek, latin.

  If they are wrong on this, as is being stated, and we know they are wrong on a lot of other things, then their whole religion crumbles, because they cannot possibly have Gods backing and Holy Spirit - therefore they are actually the apostates themselves, in ignorance, but still wrong.

  they just can't see it. Blinded the minds of the believers.
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  Other Religions use the Name JEHOVAH too

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

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  are jehovah's witnesses really the only religion that promotes and preaches the name of jehovah?.

  jw's are always claiming that they are the only religion that preaches and uses the name jehovah, and that is why only they will be saved.

  for example, look at this quote from the watchtower:.

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  The Bible: God's Word or Man's?

  by Doug Mason in

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  my jw visitor left me a copy of the 2006 print of the book "the bible: god's word or man's?

  ", and i intend to provide him with my analysis of it.. i notice that the book was written in 1989, and the dates of the references suggest the book has not been updated since then.

  am i correct?.

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  village girl. Nice.

  Before the Mosaic law, there was no law. Nothing to determine sin, in a legal sense.
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  Party at the Kingdom Hall!

  by OneDayillBeFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so being that once upon a time i was one of the elites, a regular pioneering, high & mighty jw, i still have the "keys to the kingdom" as i've always called them and was bored this past saturday night and had a couple non-jw friends (the real & unconditional kind) in my car.

  as we were driving around trying to find something new and exciting to do we passed by the road which leads to my kh.

  and then i thought why not go over there, show my friends what this cult looks like from the inside?.

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  Very disrespectful. I would fel the same way if you said it was any other church or place of worship. Your acting like stupid kid. just because you see others doing things, doesn't mean to say it is right, and that it's ok for you to copy them. You have your own brain, you are responsible for your actions.

  jw or not, respect and responsibility are requirements of everyone.

  Sorry, but I think what you did is nothing short of pathetic and there is no excuse for it. You are giving everyone else a bad reputation. Just because we have left the wt org, does not mean we all hate everyone involved and want their destuction or to cause them pain. It's called being a decent upstanding responsible member of society. Religion has nothing to do with it.

  Some of us are still christians and choose to live by the mantra, after all that is what being a christian is all about.

  Bad enough the wt org is labelling us as demons and mentally diseased to those still stuck in their trap. People like you got to do stupid things to give them more amunition to use against us.

  GROW UP AND GET A LIFE

  We are dealing with peoples lives here. PEOPLE. LIVES.
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  An Open Letter to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by gcs7000 in

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  an open letter to the governing body of jehovah's witnesses:.

  gentlemen:.

  all major world religions are accredited to the united nations as non-governmental organizations.

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  Is it true that Robert King exposed this about wt and UN, and as a result he was disfellowshipped ?

  Village girl - good comment.

  Yes the org & GB has become the man of lawlessness.
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  Logical Fallacies in WT Publications

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  I'm so dumb. lol. Never even heard of fallacies and logical fallacies. It all sounds so devious and corrupt, the kind of stuff politicians and false people do.

  So i have learned, very basic.

  A logical fallacy - is a flaw in reasoning. Like tricks or illusions of thought, often sneakily used to fool people.

  Everything seems so complicated these days.
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  The Bible: God's Word or Man's?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my jw visitor left me a copy of the 2006 print of the book "the bible: god's word or man's?

  ", and i intend to provide him with my analysis of it.. i notice that the book was written in 1989, and the dates of the references suggest the book has not been updated since then.

  am i correct?.

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  Jeremiah Source Material

  by Bobcat in

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  i started this thread as a single place for anyone who would like to add references to source material, or anything else for that matter, pertaining to the jeremiah book study.. .

  page 52:.

  here is a thread and numerous comments concerning jeremiah 13:1-11 and whether or not jeremiah traveled to the euphrates to hide a garment.. .

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  I did actually go through the Jeremiah book on my own. Afraid to read anything now that comes from the society. So thanks for this, I can go through it at my own pace.

  thanks BC

  lost

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  Is this a religion of HATE? Check out what they have printed!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "" (the watchtower, 6/15 1995, p. 4).

  " (the watchtower, 11/15 1952, p. 703).

  " (the watchtower, 10/1 1952, p. 599).

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  An institute of abuse by an organisation (corporate business) of many generations of people, human beings. mental and emotional bondage, enslavement. Just like Satan the Devil, and all his machinations and traps and snares, the very things they preach about.

  WTBTS - Officaly Jehovah's Witnesses organised religion is in no way and different at all in any way any different to the Roman Catholic Church, which wt has publicly denounced and causedmuch offense to many r&f catholics, many of whom were good true christian folks, just again tricked and conned by another bunch of wolves in sheeps clothing. The RCC hens have come home to roost now, the brave ones stood up and spoke out and got the truth out there to the masses.

  The only differrence between the two is that there was no actual institutionalised acts of violence / acts of brutality from wt as there was on scale of church. the wt uses God's personal name Jehovah and the bible to trick and snare people.

  The book I am reading by Robert king is saying all these truths about the wt, when you read his book so many thinks make sense and are easy to understand.

  And if you still have faith in God, it helps you to gently deal with a lot of issues you may have.

  It makes it clear that the wt haven't a clue and have misconstrued a lot of information. They are preaaching lies, they haven't a clue what is going on, they are stumbling around in the dark spiritualy, because they are not spirit lead by God. They are part of babylon the great.

  It's tragic, it's happened in a western educated modern world. And will forever be part of mans history, famous for its works and abuses of generations of people. Almost like a genocide but not literally ( if that makes sense) Fortunately we have the internet and all of this information is readily available. knowlege is power .. and the wt are running scared now as they are being ripped open to show the rotteness inside.
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  Is this a religion of HATE? Check out what they have printed!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "" (the watchtower, 6/15 1995, p. 4).

  " (the watchtower, 11/15 1952, p. 703).

  " (the watchtower, 10/1 1952, p. 599).

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  *lost*

  An institute of abuse by an organisation (corporate business) of many generations of people, human beings. mental and emotional bondage, enslavement. Just like Satan the Devil, and all his machinations and traps and snares, the very things they preach about.

  WTBTS - Officaly Jehovah's Witnesses organised religion is in no way and different at all in any way any different to the Roman Catholic Church, which wt has publicly denounced and causedmuch offense to many r&f catholics, many of whom were good true christian folks, just again tricked and conned by another bunch of wolves in sheeps clothing. The RCC hens have come home to roost now, the brave ones stood up and spoke out and got the truth out there to the masses.

  The only differrence between the two is that there was no actual institutionalised acts of violence / acts of brutality from wt as there was on scale of church. the wt uses God's personal name Jehovah and the bible to trick and snare people.

  The book I am reading by Robert king is saying all these truths about the wt, when you read his book so many thinks make sense and are easy to understand.

  And if you still have faith in God, it helps you to gently deal with a lot of issues you may have.

  It makes it clear that the wt haven't a clue and have misconstrued a lot of information. They are preaaching lies, they haven't a clue what is going on, they are stumbling around in the dark spiritualy, because they are not spirit lead by God. They are part of babylon the great.

  It's tragic, it's happened in a western educated modern world. And will forever be part of mans history, famous for its works and abuses of generations of people. Almost like a genocide but not literally ( if that makes sense) Fortunately we have the internet and all of this information is readily available. knowlege is power .. and the wt are running scared now as they are being ripped open to show the rotteness inside.