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  The "anger" of EX- Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Not_Culty in

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  Bugbear

  Here is a link to un ex-jw:s former Bethelite and ministerial servant, who just recently leaved the org.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqQNxPn4dmU

  hope you will like it
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  KON distraction.

  by I Faded Twice in

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  there are alot of posts about the king of the north announcements.

  this is all hocus pokus bull shit.

  it's not about king of the north.

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  IFT

  You are quite right. Interpretations of Bible texts are totally idiocy. The Bible itself have during almost 2000 years proved itself to be unreliable, stupid and untrue. Why are we still stucked with old texts that only shows ancient sagas? We could easily chose The Gilgamesh epos or some Hindu Sagas and made them holy instead..
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  "Thanks for the thought" - how the religion robs people of normal humanity

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so as you all know, my wife and i are not officially df or da.. a small event happened this week that i have to share!.

  a family that we were really close to (dinners and catch ups several times a month , go out socially often, play sport together, helped them through tough times, like uncle and aunty to their kids, etc).

  the wife's father died.

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  DOC

  ”spiritually weak” is according to the borg, something very contagious and mortally. It´s like the “black death” in Europe 1348. It spreads very fast and the best thing is to run away were you can´t find any infected with the virus which is naturally only among those that are in “a god stand”.
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  Do You Care If A World Leader Had An Affair Before Taking Office?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i don’t care about it unless someone runs on a record of being a model family man or woman.. does it bother you if a president or princess or top government official “cheats “??

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  Really, Trumph is not different from many on the other “world leaders”. You can count almost everyone from Alexander the Great, via Henrik the V111, to Napoleon, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol pot, to Jacob Zuma, Saddam Hussein, Putin and a numbers of others. The ting is “why do we accept” rampant layers… narcissistic if not fully blown out psychopaths, as our leaders? Why do we accept that seven men dictate to us if we should have a beard or not….
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  My dad RIP

  by ScottyRex in

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  2. friends

  my dad died 2 weeks ago on sunday.

  i will miss him so much.

  he was the funniest most greatest man i have ever known.. granted for the first 30 years i wasnt that much keen on him and i don't think he was on me much either.....let me explain.. mum and dad met in 1964, mum was the prettiest girl in the town, mini skirts, raised hair, the daintiest figure, she looked the spit of audrey hepburn at breakfast at tiffanys.

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  ScottyRex

  JD is a miraculous water.... Sometimes it can even drown your sorrow.. Your story helps me to overcome my own fathers dead, but remember all of us here are with you..
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  How many are PIMO ??

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know we cannot answer this, how many are physically in, mentally out (pimo), but i heard an amazing piece of news the other day.. an ex-p.o and ex-elder, a long time regular pioneer, and when i knew him a stalwart believer, went for a drink with another jw who has actually left, but is not df or anything.. in the course of conversation he came out with this bombshell "well, i am actually an atheist now, i just go along to keep my wife happy".. i also heard of a number of youngsters that i know personally who are simply living their life as they want, whilst making sure they don't get df'd for family and social reasons.. if as it seems the pimo's are a huge number, could there be a huge " awakening" where they all realize they are in a huge group, and they all say " eff it, lets call it a day on all the jw s**t ".

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  wishful thinking, but.....just possible ?.

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  Phizzy

  I think you have only seen the tip of the iceberg
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  A Field Service that gave a shock to the CO

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  during one co visit to our congregation, i was asked to work with co as i was a new publisher.

  after some ordinary visits, we entered a house where there was only a lady who proved be well-educated.

  though it was my turn, i told co to present the good news.

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  Ireneus

  Thank you for a good story. I think the problems the JW-cult is facing today, comes from the lack of education. In most western countries and some Asian, people have higher education and are well informed thus making it almost impossible for the dubs to gain new members. JW,s can only obtain new members in countries were the education level is low. This however also makes their income from these countries very low. So the borg is slowly bleeding and will fade away
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  Please explain!

  by Freedom rocks in

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  2. beliefs

  hi please can someone explain this in laymans terms for me coz i be ever got it as a jw and still don't.

  it doesn't make sense to me.

  bible chronology indicates that god’s kingdom was established in heaven in 1914. this is shown by a prophecy recorded in chapter 4 of the bible book of daniel.. overview of the prophecy.

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  Freedom Rocks

  I am sorry to say that your basic preconditions, that the bible in some way, could possibly be right and trustworthy, is absolutely a fallacy. None of the texts in The Bible could ever be regarded as a truth. The Bible only reflects old ancient sagas, written down by a number “writers” who are told to write down what some totally ignorant priest remembered, and what their fathers and mothers have told them. Then it is copied, rewritten, translated and copied, and copied and copied……by totally ignorant boys that just barely have learned to copy letter, by letter. Most of the ideas in the Bible have been proven false, not only the year b.c . 607. But it also contains frightening stories of bears eating boys, of God drowning a humanit, of a God allowing to kill every other nations that is not Jewish. It contains stories of how to sacrifice Goats, bulls, dowse to please God, and order the Israelites to take girls women and children, to slaves. ……..It is terrible if any one use the Bible as the basic of his believes, in fact most of the wars in the western story was inspired be the so called Gods word.
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  Cart observations from Cardiff South Wales

  by freddo in

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  2. friends

  i was in a suburb of cardiff, capital of wales where it was difficult to get near to my customer's offices to deliver and install what i do.

  i had my car parked about a hundred yards away and had to make several trips with goods and tools past a local jw trolley cart.

  as i was working i didn't stop but observed much of the time from an upper floor office window.. in the hour or so i was there, on a warm sunny (for late february) lunchtime/early afternoon - right by a bus stop and several local shops, cafes and banks with plenty of people about - not one person stopped at the cart.. the two women at the cart i guess were about 50 and 75 respectively - pleasant looking motherly/grandmotherly types.

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  Bugbear

  Good job freddo, I wish I had the same courage as you. And if I remember you phrase, I´ll try to use as well
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  What would you say?

  by Freedom rocks in

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  2. beliefs

  if you had 2 minutes with an old witness friend or with a family member to convince them the 'truth' is a lie and the gb isnt being directed by god what would you say to get their attention that might make them question their beliefs?.

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  Freedom Rocks

  I think you will have a problem. You see JW,s are not living in a normal world. They are living in a bisectional world called cognitive dissonance. They perfectly know that that the world and humans are much older than the Bible tells them. They know that the various Bible interpretations always have failed…. And yet they prefer to live in the insane culture that tells them they have the truth. It’s giving them comfort, they always have something they can blame it on. Richard Dawkins calls it the placebo pills. A placebo pills actually has no effect but gives the user some comfort and he thinks it is working. Therefore he or she will continue to pay a lot of money just to get his pills every day. And he or she is also always willing to consult a homeopathic doctor and pay every month the costs. This until they discover that they have paid al lot of money for nothing. When that happened even your JW friend might be willing to listen to your arguments. In our world we cannot with solid arguments persuade a person that don’t accept them because we are the wrong source of information…