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  C.T. Russell's grave vandalized

  by RR in

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  i attended a week long [six day] bible student convention in johnstown, pa, just outside of pittsburgh, there was a sister from romania who wanted to visit pastor russell's grave, so we drove the 2 hours up there, the last time i was there was in 1999.

  well, apparently russell'sgrave was vandalized, on the front and back of the tombstone there are these photos of russell embedded into the granite, someone decided to keep a momento and ripped them off, so there's just a hole where the pictures were.

  no respect for the dead, oh well.

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  donkey

  I have read his writings, agree with much of it and respect the man for hat he accomplished

  So because YOU agree with much of his writings and because YOU respect Russell for his accomplishements - now I have to also? I happen to think he was the cause for a social genocide among millions of people who followed the crap he wrote. But we can debate that another time. For now think outside the box and let's start with an extreme example:

  Hitler ordered the deaths of millions of Jews (well not according to some other nutballs who are no longer posting here). Should he be given the "respect" of having a gravesite? Afterall some people did respect him...what do you think?

  Jack

  Note: I did agree that since it is illegal to vanadlize gravesites I do NOT support the actions of the perps.
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  MUST READ - NEWSPAPER ARTICLE

  by SHUNNED FATHER in

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  calgary herald

  credit: calgary herald archive

  credit: calgary herald archive

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  donkey

  Hawk,

  You have a father who has been through hell and is now trying to save his second daughter from a cult. And then someone posts immediately after the father of the dead girl and call the fathers actions sick and disgusting? I have a problem with that but then I guess I am always on the fringes of society.

  Jack
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  C.T. Russell's grave vandalized

  by RR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i attended a week long [six day] bible student convention in johnstown, pa, just outside of pittsburgh, there was a sister from romania who wanted to visit pastor russell's grave, so we drove the 2 hours up there, the last time i was there was in 1999.

  well, apparently russell'sgrave was vandalized, on the front and back of the tombstone there are these photos of russell embedded into the granite, someone decided to keep a momento and ripped them off, so there's just a hole where the pictures were.

  no respect for the dead, oh well.

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  donkey

  Vandalizing his grave was criminal.

  If vanadlizing his grave was legal would you do it? I would probably take a bulldozer to it and remove it.

  Jack
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  MUST READ - NEWSPAPER ARTICLE

  by SHUNNED FATHER in

  1. jw
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  calgary herald

  credit: calgary herald archive

  credit: calgary herald archive

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  donkey

  Simon and mods,

  I feel strongly that IW's remarks should be deleted from this thread.

  Jack
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  C.T. Russell's grave vandalized

  by RR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i attended a week long [six day] bible student convention in johnstown, pa, just outside of pittsburgh, there was a sister from romania who wanted to visit pastor russell's grave, so we drove the 2 hours up there, the last time i was there was in 1999.

  well, apparently russell'sgrave was vandalized, on the front and back of the tombstone there are these photos of russell embedded into the granite, someone decided to keep a momento and ripped them off, so there's just a hole where the pictures were.

  no respect for the dead, oh well.

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  donkey

  Blondie....

  Precisely. Respect has nothing to do with it. It is a question of law and ownership. Respect is earned - some people don't deserve it whether dead or alive.

  Jack
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  C.T. Russell's grave vandalized

  by RR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i attended a week long [six day] bible student convention in johnstown, pa, just outside of pittsburgh, there was a sister from romania who wanted to visit pastor russell's grave, so we drove the 2 hours up there, the last time i was there was in 1999.

  well, apparently russell'sgrave was vandalized, on the front and back of the tombstone there are these photos of russell embedded into the granite, someone decided to keep a momento and ripped them off, so there's just a hole where the pictures were.

  no respect for the dead, oh well.

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  donkey

  lmao@Reborn
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  C.T. Russell's grave vandalized

  by RR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i attended a week long [six day] bible student convention in johnstown, pa, just outside of pittsburgh, there was a sister from romania who wanted to visit pastor russell's grave, so we drove the 2 hours up there, the last time i was there was in 1999.

  well, apparently russell'sgrave was vandalized, on the front and back of the tombstone there are these photos of russell embedded into the granite, someone decided to keep a momento and ripped them off, so there's just a hole where the pictures were.

  no respect for the dead, oh well.

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  donkey

  Reborn,

  I agree with that but as you enjoyed pointing out - there are no moral absolutes .

  So let's take Osama Bin Laden, if he is dead and then buried - should we show him respect because he is now dead? I know I have jumped to an extreme example but I am testing to see where we feel it ceases to be black and white.

  Jack
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  The Borg's fear of demons (Worship Bk, chap 18)

  by ozziepost in

  1. watchtower
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  one characteristic of dubs is a preoccupation and fear of the demons.

  their literature contains descriptions of a contest between the creator god and satan, such as found in their recently publication worship the only true god.

  according to page 71:

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  donkey

  Ozzie,

  Isn't it amazing what people can be made to believe by using fear?
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  C.T. Russell's grave vandalized

  by RR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i attended a week long [six day] bible student convention in johnstown, pa, just outside of pittsburgh, there was a sister from romania who wanted to visit pastor russell's grave, so we drove the 2 hours up there, the last time i was there was in 1999.

  well, apparently russell'sgrave was vandalized, on the front and back of the tombstone there are these photos of russell embedded into the granite, someone decided to keep a momento and ripped them off, so there's just a hole where the pictures were.

  no respect for the dead, oh well.

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  donkey

  we all should respect the dead

  Why?

  What does respecting the dead mean? And once again why?

  Jack
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  Should the U.S. Release Photos of the Hussein Son's?

  by Funchback in

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  my *personal* opinion is that they should because the people of iraq will probably require some proof.

  i don't have any interest in seeing the photos but i believe that their photos will spread throughout the internet and the news media and curiosity will eventually cause me to peek at the photos.

  don't know why i would have interest in seeing a couple of lifeless bodies though.

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  donkey

  I think they should sell the bodies on ebay.