At 9 years of age a child cannot make contracts, sign cheques, obtain credit so why anyone thinks they are able to make other "life" decisions is truly amazing. In reality Baptism by JWs is an irrelevance that may be an issue now but as a child grows older and understands - "sees the world" ...then 50 baptisms will not stop a teenager leaving the truth - its no big deal
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Legal question
by In Between inmy x wants my 9 year old daughter to get baptized.
my x claims that my little girl bugs her all the time to get baptized.
i told my x no, she's too young.
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SUGGESTED POLICY CHANGES to spice up the religion
by Terry in1. the president of the watchtower society is really jesus incarnate .
2. plural wives are now allowed (but, only pretty young ones!
3. special silk robes for elders (and maybe fancy headgear) .
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WT Arranges Entertainment for the Family:
The Watchtower version of Monopoly
Aim is not to ACCUMULATE wealth property/hotels - but to lose status/ wealth / job / become a cleaner - winner is first person to lose all personal possessions and pride
"Go Straight to Bethel, Do Not Pick Up £200"
Utilities - all owned by WT
Take a chance cards - take a chance on a date being right
Watchtower version of "Sorry"
No content to box - WT dont do Sorry!
Watchtower Card Game version of Patience
winner is not first to "21" but the one who waits, and waits, and waits,...for the New System
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SUGGESTED POLICY CHANGES to spice up the religion
by Terry in1. the president of the watchtower society is really jesus incarnate .
2. plural wives are now allowed (but, only pretty young ones!
3. special silk robes for elders (and maybe fancy headgear) .
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Actual Number of the anointed remaining
by core inheard from a sister that a visitor to their cong (from usa) mentioned in passing that at the top at brooklyn they did not think that the reported number of anointed still alive was accurate, rather they believe that only a couple of hundred remain.
they apparently believe this points to the end soon (again) - also if it is true they are not proclaiming it (obviously because the time limit it imposes will be exposed as another failed date).
odd if that is the case as they keep on finding gb members who are not actually very old
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Heard from a sister that a visitor to their cong (from USA) mentioned in passing that at the top at Brooklyn they did not think that the reported number of anointed still alive was accurate, rather they believe that only a couple of hundred remain. They apparently believe this points to the end soon (again) - also if it is true they are not proclaiming it (obviously because the time limit it imposes will be exposed as another failed date)
Odd if that is the case as they keep on finding GB members who are not actually very old
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Another wacky BOE letter
by sir82 inhere's part of the text of another boe letter read recently.
i'm going to see if i can get these scanned so someone can post them.in line with the letters to all bodies of elders dated july 1, 1989, august 1, 1995, march 14, 1997, and february 15, 2002, elders should call the legal department regarding any inmate who may have been accused of child maltreatment in the past and who is now associating with the organization, whether he is baptized or not.
(child maltreatment includes physical or sexual abuse.
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core
fullofdoubtnow:
The elders in my old kh "protected" the children of a brother who had been accused by them of child abuse by disfellowshipping the two who were baptised, as well as their mother, for going to the police. The brother, who is now doing 7.5 years in prison, was "repentant", and is still a jw in good standing. He will be welcomed back into the congregation on his release.
was that because of the 2 witness rule? had similar experience of that - and you say this "pervert" (can't use words I want to) is in "good standing" with the cong - how can ordinary JWS see this and stay in? Are they blinded to the obvious of is it all hidden away with lies and half-truths and the famous "get out of anything" statement - "leave it in Jehovahs hands"
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Revelation-Its Grand Climax at Hand!
by XBEHERE injuly km confirms that this is the next book for consideration at bookstudies starting next year.
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Desperation - Its Grand Climax Now at Hand
Said when we were in that if they ever studied "that" again we would know it was time to quit as they would be a busted flush - studying a book riddled with changes and alterations - have they no new talent to replace the Freddie writing machine - cant any one now in Writing Dept connect the unconnectable - its raining, its Tuesday, a meeting is being held so this must equate with a Trumpet blast in Revelation etc etc how very sad to be sentenced to go through all that fantasy again - come back Freddie - time to write some more lurid fiction -
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Circuit Overseers Tales of Grief and Woe
by Balaams Ass in<div>hi i am in the middle of writing some memoirs of my time on the travelling work.
well anyone be interested in reading them?????
i have some heavy editing to do to protect identies and the like, but i should be finished at the end of the week.
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core
Caspian where is thy sting...........or thy sister....
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Re: Ex-jw from London predicts destruction of WT on 6-6-06 <Message encl.>
by Enlightened1 inwow, this one really got my attention.
gordon, and ej-jw from across the pond has broadcast his email which is an unequivicating diatribe and prediction of doom for the brooklyn bethel complex on or near the beast day : 6-6-06. well here's his email in it's entirety, feedback is welcome.
i heard the fbi showed up to question him when he visited nyc recently to deliver a warning message to brooklyn headquarters.
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core
the day has dawned yet I am still here ans so (it seems) is everyone else - what a shame - another crackpots date predictions failed - will wait for the "new light" on this failure by these loonies
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Bethel Downsizing - Management Discussions
by core in.
the spin on downsizing is apparently "go out into the field" yet when the gb initially considered this it must have been presented as a practical problem - too much surplus hr capacity/ too expensive to maintain - or whatever and yet they turned it into a positive matter by stressing the return to the field - all those in such discussions are clearly able to deceive themselves as much as they try and deceive the "flock" - what do you think - did a discussion on a practical problem have to have a positive outcome and how did they twist their minds so as to sell it as such - for years they begged people to stay in bethel service (make it your home for life) and now they cast them out into the world with the thin veneer of "speedin g up the preaching work .. etc".
all those at the top must have been involved in turning this huge embarrasment (jehovah will provide etc) into a positive spin - they should try out for a marketing award "downsizing - the only way to grow!
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From SAP.com
"SAP for Defense & Security solutions paved the way for NATO's next-generation command and control systems"
Command and control is something the WT could teach NATO about
what's the ethic's of using the SAP business when it is heavily involved in Defence and military system planning?
Work at SAP on defence projects and get DF
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Bethel Downsizing - Management Discussions
by core in.
the spin on downsizing is apparently "go out into the field" yet when the gb initially considered this it must have been presented as a practical problem - too much surplus hr capacity/ too expensive to maintain - or whatever and yet they turned it into a positive matter by stressing the return to the field - all those in such discussions are clearly able to deceive themselves as much as they try and deceive the "flock" - what do you think - did a discussion on a practical problem have to have a positive outcome and how did they twist their minds so as to sell it as such - for years they begged people to stay in bethel service (make it your home for life) and now they cast them out into the world with the thin veneer of "speedin g up the preaching work .. etc".
all those at the top must have been involved in turning this huge embarrasment (jehovah will provide etc) into a positive spin - they should try out for a marketing award "downsizing - the only way to grow!
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SAP - as Fanghorn says that has wrecked many businesses, in my time I have seen mammoth businesses crumble as they try to implement modules of SAP. Having that as against the in-house bits and pieces really nails it that the WT is a business, a big business, nothing more nor less and the "downsizing" is purely to cut costs at HO with no regard for these "downsized" - just the fig leaf of "speeding up the chariot - in the field" as a cover.
In English its simply that many have had what we call their P45s - the sack, but unlike workers for a business, no cost to the firm! No redundancy money, retraining or other financial assistance - a brilliant way to make and keep making money