Posts by Oubliette

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Oh Irony of ironies: Googling for a problem caused by the WT and getting a solution from JW.org :-(
by BluePill2 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have to share this with you.. after leaving the borg i had to concentrate to solve so many personal problems (financial, child custody, etc.

) that it left me with a poor social life.

i just didn't have the nerve/time to make new friends.
Oubliette

It's like a twist of the knife from "the God of Love."
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if tomorrow dozens of jws learned of ttatt
by sowhatnow in
1. jw
2. friends
and they left the congregations, would you then feel open to be thier friends?.

many on here have the same complaint, that in the jw congregations, there were clickes, no one had time for each other,.

people judged, there was a lack of association, freindship , true concern and love were lacking.
Oubliette

TTATT = The Truth About "The Truth"
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Zone Visit feedback, from ones still in??
by Crazyguy in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
just wondering if any one has heard from ones still asleep, what their feedback has been and what comments have been made by the rank and file??.

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Oubliette

DB, Tony you are a douche

No, Losch is the douche, Tony's a Turd.

Otherwise I completely agree with you!

DB: Really sad that a meeting that was supposed to encourage became a trigger for a depressive episode.
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Best scriptures for countering TOMO III's comment about "inactive ones"??
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
what do you say, bible gurus???

a relative asked me what i thought of the zone visit.

i am in the process of gathering my thoughts.
Oubliette

Vidquin: I just think there will be quite a few waking up to TTATT, with the way things are going, so one should go easy on them.

Agreed.

Vidquin:By reasoning logically from the Scriptures, one could point them in the right direction.

Agreed! But you can't get to logical reasoning by half measures. A form of argument that is "mostly logical" is still illogical.

Vidquin:Also it has become clear that their leadership has become totally disconnected from reality.

And agreed!!!
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OMG: WT legislating about fragances and common sense
by pixel in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
do they have to tell the r&f every little detail???.

from the new wt:.

what can be done to assist brothers and sisters who suffer from adverse reactions to fragrances?any who are sensitive to fragrances face a difficult challenge.
Oubliette

Where the problem exists and local circumstances allow, it might be possible for the body of elders to arrange for those who are sensitive to fragrances to sit in a somewhat isolated area in the Kingdom Hall.

I quit going. Problem solved.
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Changed: Head coverings for sisters, w15 2/15 QFR
by wifibandit in
1. watchtower
2. bible
does a female kingdom publisher need to wear a head covering if she conducts a bible study in the presence of a male publisher?.

in a questions from readers item published in the watchtower of july 15, 2002, it was stated that a sister should cover her head if she conducts a bible study in the presence of a male publisher, whether he is baptized or not.

further consideration of the matter suggests that a modification to this direction is appropriate.. if the male publisher who accompanies the sister while she conducts an established bible study is baptized, the sister would certainly want to wear a head covering.
Oubliette

Further consideration of the matter suggests that a modification to this direction is appropriate. She only need to wear a head covering if her Spanx are visible and/or the brother is wearing tight pants and colored socks.

For the sake of the "Kingdom Good News," the expression "colored socks" means any color other than black or white, although white socks are generally inadvisable for a brother even though white shirts are evidently preferred.
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Best scriptures for countering TOMO III's comment about "inactive ones"??
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
what do you say, bible gurus???

a relative asked me what i thought of the zone visit.

i am in the process of gathering my thoughts.
Oubliette

Vidquin: If you want to reason with a Witness without using Scripture, you will be wasting your time.

In my experience, trying to "reason" with a JW, with or without scriptures, is a waste of time.

The vast majority live by this mantra: Listen, Obey and Be Blessed!
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My Experience In Getting A Loved One Out
by notsurewheretogo in
1. jw
2. experiences
this is my own experience so i'll share it in that it might help others.

this may not work for others but it seems to be working for me.. .

a little background...i'm happily married and 3 years ago i was an elder and my wife was a pioneer, we have 3 kids.
Oubliette

NSWTG, thanks for your thoughtful response.

I do understand the progressive nature of trying to wake up someone to TTATT.

That being said, please reconsider my statement: "Men teach wrong things and Jehovah (God) has nothing to do with any of it."

There is nothing about this that implies that there is no God, (although this is what I believe), only that God has nothing to do with the WTBTS, its hopelessly misguided and quite probably fraudulent leaders, and the R&F followers who have been scammed.

Best wishes on reaching your wife,

Oubliette
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Best scriptures for countering TOMO III's comment about "inactive ones"??
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
what do you say, bible gurus???

a relative asked me what i thought of the zone visit.

i am in the process of gathering my thoughts.
Oubliette

Vidquin: for he that is not against us is for us.

Exactly!

Except Jesus contradicted himself and also said, " Whoever is not on my side is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. " - Matthew 12:30. Expect that as a response.

This is why I maintain: Don't try to use scriptures. The WTBTS has twisted so many of them that no JW can understand what any of them say, they only know what they've be told they "mean."

The burden of proof is always on the individual making an assertion. ToMo promised to use scriptures and publications to back up his statements. He did neither. Why didn't he?

Ask the question, shut up and let the silence have it's affect.

Of course, people that are under the notion that the Bible is "the infallible Word of God" go through excruciating mental gymanistics to "harmonize" these kinds of blatant contradictions, but once a person has disabused themselves of this false notion, it becomes easy to see the Bible for what it really is.

It is a book full of contradictions (among other things).
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Best scriptures for countering TOMO III's comment about "inactive ones"??
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
what do you say, bible gurus???

a relative asked me what i thought of the zone visit.

i am in the process of gathering my thoughts.
Oubliette

Why use scriptures? ToMo didn't use any!

Try logic instead: “Whenever you find yourself getting angry about a difference of opinion, be on your guard; you will probably find, on examination, that your belief is going beyond what the evidence warrants.” ― Bertrand Russell