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  THE IMPONDERABLES TOPIC (Enter at your own risk)

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i suggest taking this slowly .

  .. consider the difference between taking a poll about an upcoming election and the actual vote itself on the day of the election.. the information gathered about what the vote will be is provisional.

  the vote on the day of the election is actual and official.. it is the one that counts.. now, carefully ask yourself what the specific difference--if any--there is between the poll information and the election result as an identical knowledge of.

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  Terry: You guys crack me up!

  Good, I'm glad you take our comments and retorts in the good-natured spirit of discourse in which they are intended.

  I hope that wasn't overly obtuse or ambiguous. I do try to eschew obfuscation whenever appropriate!?!
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  HELP ME COMPILE A LIST OF DISCARDED WORDS AND PHRASES from the WTS

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in fort worth, texas around 1959. gradually i became aware of the argot.

  special, private language).

  jw's had these phrases they used over and over again.. upon first hearing, these words and phrases stood out as odd, weird or awkward.. however.

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  Love

  Kindness

  Compassion

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  Oh, I'm sorry, you wanted discarded WORDS, I thought you wanted discarded PRACTICES! -
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  Q-tips and Coffee Filters helped me learn TTATT

  by RedPillPopper in

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  2. friends

  well they didn't fully teach me ttatt but helped me on the way.............. first thing i do in the morning after waking up is grinding some nice coffee beans and getting the brew started while i take a hot shower.

  after the shower i like to clean out all the nasty wax out of my ears with a q-tip (or cotton swab for those not familiar with that term).. while cleaning out my ears i would think about how nice it is we have things like q-tips and coffee filters that make life more enjoyable but at the same time realize that somebody somewhere is in a factory making these.. i can't imagine a child saying "when i grow up i want to work in a factory making coffee filters".

  the people who end up really doing that as adults did not set that to be a life goal.

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  Well that's a different recipe for learning TTATT!

  
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  After all, JWs were RIGHT!

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

  2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

  http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

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  Ancient Chinese Wisdom from a Fortune Cookie at Panda Express:

  
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  After all, JWs were RIGHT!

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

  2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

  http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

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  abiather: But their core teaching remains not only UNCHALLENGED and UNCHANGEABLE, but day by day its radiance increases: “To earthling man his way does not belong.” (Jeremiah 10:23)

  Um, that's not "theirs." It's in the Bible. Public domain.

  Get the fucking clue and find some blind squirrels to locate some nuts.
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  THE IMPONDERABLES TOPIC (Enter at your own risk)

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i suggest taking this slowly .

  .. consider the difference between taking a poll about an upcoming election and the actual vote itself on the day of the election.. the information gathered about what the vote will be is provisional.

  the vote on the day of the election is actual and official.. it is the one that counts.. now, carefully ask yourself what the specific difference--if any--there is between the poll information and the election result as an identical knowledge of.

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  Terry: We are seldom rigorous in separating magisteria.

  Who are "we"?

  You might be guilty of this, I rarely am.

  Leave me out of your broad, sweeping generalizations.
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  THE IMPONDERABLES TOPIC (Enter at your own risk)

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i suggest taking this slowly .

  .. consider the difference between taking a poll about an upcoming election and the actual vote itself on the day of the election.. the information gathered about what the vote will be is provisional.

  the vote on the day of the election is actual and official.. it is the one that counts.. now, carefully ask yourself what the specific difference--if any--there is between the poll information and the election result as an identical knowledge of.

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  Rocks, water, air and light all exist and they are not aware of their own existence.

  You're mixing scientific knowledge with "quantum woo" theosophy.

  Knowledge ONLY exists in the human mind.

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  On another note, if something is truly "imponderable" you cannot, by definition, ponder it. You can ever only talk "around it, all the while never ever getting anywhere."

  On the other hand, there have been quite a few "ponderous thoughts" exchanged on this thread. Very well, but they are then, again by definition, on subjects which are not "imponderable."

  The very thesis of the thread sets you up for at best only two possibilities:

  • You will fail at what you set out to do, and
  • You can and will only talk about other things

  What's the point?
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  If you are pondering leaving....

  by snare&racket in

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  2. friends

  wiser men have lived and died than those ignorant dictators of brooklyn, for those that are pondering the courage required to cease the so called life as subjects to their whim, consider the words of someone far more inspirational than self appointed men hiding from real life dictating to millions how to live.... .

  out of the night that covers me, black as the pit from pole to pole, i thank whatever gods may be for my unconquerable soul.. in the fell clutch of circumstance i have not winced nor cried aloud.

  under the bludgeonings of chance my head is bloody, but unbowed.. beyond this place of wrath and tears looms but the horror of the shade, and yet the menace of the years finds and shall find me unafraid.. it matters not how strait the gate, how charged with punishments the scroll, i am the master of my fate, i am the captain of my soul.. .

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  The poem is by William Ernest Henley (1849–1903).

  Although it is commonly known as Invictus, this is not a title he gave it, but was added by a later editor when included in a compliation of English verse.
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  THE IMPONDERABLES TOPIC (Enter at your own risk)

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i suggest taking this slowly .

  .. consider the difference between taking a poll about an upcoming election and the actual vote itself on the day of the election.. the information gathered about what the vote will be is provisional.

  the vote on the day of the election is actual and official.. it is the one that counts.. now, carefully ask yourself what the specific difference--if any--there is between the poll information and the election result as an identical knowledge of.

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  Science (which is knowledge) measures before it does anything else.

  I disagree. Science is initially a way of knowing that begins with observing.
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  The Watchtower 3/15/2015 Parables! New Understanding! plus More!

  by wifibandit in

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  http://imgur.com/a/e6dos.

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  Oubliette

  The murk gets murkier!