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  JWs say, "They don't judge"

  by skeeter1 in

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  what is up with jws?

  lately, i've heard this line, "we don't judge .

  but, doesn't everyone judge?

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  They also say they have "the Truth."

  It's doublespeak and it's doubleplusungood.
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  Elders and priests what 's the difference?

  by sparrowdown in

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  is being a "good" elder the same as being a "good" catholic priest?.

  is there any difference between representing the rcc and representing that other bastion of child abuse the wt?.

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  FHN: The level of education and training is vastly different.

  Yes, priests have much, much more training and education.

  I am not endorsing the Catholic church, or any other religion for that matter. It's just that the level of training is much greater.

  For example, here are the educational requirements for candidate for the Catholic priesthood in the Albany, New York diocese:

  Educational Requirements

  The educational requirements for priesthood ordination are as follows:

  • Four-year undergraduate degree in any field of study.
  • Two-year Pre-Theology Program - Thirty (30) credit hours in selected areas of philosophy and twelve (12) credit hours in selected areas of theology.
  • Four-year Master of Divinity degree from a Catholic seminary.

  Compare this to the educational requirements for a JW elder:

  • Requirements:
  • Do you know God's name?
  • Can you be obedient to any and all directions from the "Faithful and Discreet Slave," even if they makes no sense?
  • Are you older than 23?
  • Have you successfully served as a Ministerial Servant for at least "a number of years," putting up with the BS from the local elders?
  • Note: BS in this context does NOT stand for Bachelor's of Science
  • Are you able to at least appear to go out in the Field Ministry 10 hours per month, on average?
  • Do you and every member of your family own an iPad or equivalent device?
  • Possible Disqualifications:
  • Do you have any education beyond secondary school? (This is actually a negative).
  • Definite Disqualifications:
  • Are you prone to "Independent Thinking" and/or research on your own?
  • Would you turn a pedophile over to the local police?

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  HELP ME COMPILE A LIST OF DISCARDED WORDS AND PHRASES from the WTS

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in fort worth, texas around 1959. gradually i became aware of the argot.

  special, private language).

  jw's had these phrases they used over and over again.. upon first hearing, these words and phrases stood out as odd, weird or awkward.. however.

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  Company Servant ---> Presiding Overseer ---> Coordinator of the Body of Elders
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  THE IMPONDERABLES TOPIC (Enter at your own risk)

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i suggest taking this slowly .

  .. consider the difference between taking a poll about an upcoming election and the actual vote itself on the day of the election.. the information gathered about what the vote will be is provisional.

  the vote on the day of the election is actual and official.. it is the one that counts.. now, carefully ask yourself what the specific difference--if any--there is between the poll information and the election result as an identical knowledge of.

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  Terry: You guys crack me up!

  Good, I'm glad you take our comments and retorts in the good-natured spirit of discourse in which they are intended.

  I hope that wasn't overly obtuse or ambiguous. I do try to eschew obfuscation whenever appropriate!?!
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  HELP ME COMPILE A LIST OF DISCARDED WORDS AND PHRASES from the WTS

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in fort worth, texas around 1959. gradually i became aware of the argot.

  special, private language).

  jw's had these phrases they used over and over again.. upon first hearing, these words and phrases stood out as odd, weird or awkward.. however.

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  Love

  Kindness

  Compassion

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  Oh, I'm sorry, you wanted discarded WORDS, I thought you wanted discarded PRACTICES! -
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  Q-tips and Coffee Filters helped me learn TTATT

  by RedPillPopper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well they didn't fully teach me ttatt but helped me on the way.............. first thing i do in the morning after waking up is grinding some nice coffee beans and getting the brew started while i take a hot shower.

  after the shower i like to clean out all the nasty wax out of my ears with a q-tip (or cotton swab for those not familiar with that term).. while cleaning out my ears i would think about how nice it is we have things like q-tips and coffee filters that make life more enjoyable but at the same time realize that somebody somewhere is in a factory making these.. i can't imagine a child saying "when i grow up i want to work in a factory making coffee filters".

  the people who end up really doing that as adults did not set that to be a life goal.

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  Well that's a different recipe for learning TTATT!

  
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  After all, JWs were RIGHT!

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

  2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

  http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

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  Ancient Chinese Wisdom from a Fortune Cookie at Panda Express:

  
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  After all, JWs were RIGHT!

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind, yet the overall result points to the opposite direction.. http://aeon.co/magazine/science/why-has-human-progress-ground-to-a-halt/.

  2) john kerry warns of catastrophe if climate change is not tackled.

  http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environment/article4295230.ece (times, saturday 13, 2014).

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  abiather: But their core teaching remains not only UNCHALLENGED and UNCHANGEABLE, but day by day its radiance increases: “To earthling man his way does not belong.” (Jeremiah 10:23)

  Um, that's not "theirs." It's in the Bible. Public domain.

  Get the fucking clue and find some blind squirrels to locate some nuts.
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  THE IMPONDERABLES TOPIC (Enter at your own risk)

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i suggest taking this slowly .

  .. consider the difference between taking a poll about an upcoming election and the actual vote itself on the day of the election.. the information gathered about what the vote will be is provisional.

  the vote on the day of the election is actual and official.. it is the one that counts.. now, carefully ask yourself what the specific difference--if any--there is between the poll information and the election result as an identical knowledge of.

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  Terry: We are seldom rigorous in separating magisteria.

  Who are "we"?

  You might be guilty of this, I rarely am.

  Leave me out of your broad, sweeping generalizations.
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  THE IMPONDERABLES TOPIC (Enter at your own risk)

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i suggest taking this slowly .

  .. consider the difference between taking a poll about an upcoming election and the actual vote itself on the day of the election.. the information gathered about what the vote will be is provisional.

  the vote on the day of the election is actual and official.. it is the one that counts.. now, carefully ask yourself what the specific difference--if any--there is between the poll information and the election result as an identical knowledge of.

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  Rocks, water, air and light all exist and they are not aware of their own existence.

  You're mixing scientific knowledge with "quantum woo" theosophy.

  Knowledge ONLY exists in the human mind.

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  On another note, if something is truly "imponderable" you cannot, by definition, ponder it. You can ever only talk "around it, all the while never ever getting anywhere."

  On the other hand, there have been quite a few "ponderous thoughts" exchanged on this thread. Very well, but they are then, again by definition, on subjects which are not "imponderable."

  The very thesis of the thread sets you up for at best only two possibilities:

  • You will fail at what you set out to do, and
  • You can and will only talk about other things

  What's the point?