all i want is this: for us to be a family, to spend time together enjoying life.
i don't wish to debate about their beliefs when together.
they can remain jws for all i care.
"This is the most perfect, imperfect organization... It has to be the truth."
This is of course a completely illogical statement. The conclusion in no way follows from the premise, which is itself flawed.
As intelligent a person as your father maybe, he clearly succumbs to stubbornly holding on to his beliefs when anything threatens them.
Although it probably will not help him see TTATT, you might find this book enlightening as to why otherwise smart people refuse to accept obvious truth:
wow, what a surprise that was!.
i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.
totally caught me off guard.
How could you be out and not research the JW's on the internet? It's not like they'll DF you again.
Your question illustrates the difference between being physically out and mentally out.
this thread is to formally address this subject.
this is for forum members and especially for lurkers (current witnesses reading this in secret).
please feel free to post any additional points.. there are a lot of changes happening in wt land.
DD: Paul MADE tents. Would a CO even SELL tents at Bass Pro or Wal-Mart?!?! Lol!!!
Paul made tents. Most CO's make me tense! (Say it out loud)
there is ample evidence of the jw organizations being deceptive (for example, misusing quotes in publications such as the trinity brochure and the creation book), but a few years ago i noticed one glaring example of deception that is worth noting..
part #4 for the theocratic ministry school for the week of july 21, 2008 was how can false prophets be identified?
the material was the reasoning book beginning on page 132 (there was a similar service meeting part the week of 8-26-13)..
Magnum, excellent OP!
The pattern of deception, lies and coverups all point to one conclusion: It's deliberate and the WT leadership know it.
They act very differently than the standards they hold everyone else to. There's a word for this and you know it: hypocrisy.
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses make the Pharisees of the Bible look like amateurs.
Let's review: It's a cult!
sorry, i messed up before i could put the right title on this new light from our circuit overseer, his visit show's a great desperation in the organization's mindset, adding more anxiety and guilt to jws who already feel they don't measure up!.
hi, i attended the circuit overseers visit and got really angry because our c.o.
gave information coming from the governing body's chief apologists regarding "meeting attendance" and "the couple who missed one meeting and lost their entire family because they did not get the "411" when armageddon was coming!
notsurewheretogo, beat me to it!
I'll add this prophecy: Everyone you know is going to die. So are you. Armageddon isn't coming. The GB are a bunch of delusional old fools.
Let's review: It's a cult!
on jw tv.
anthony morris is ranting against higher education.
he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.
"At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. (4) Now is the time for any who may be putting their trust in secular education, material things, or human institutions to adjust their thinking. The elders must stand ready to help any who may now be wavering in their faith." - w2013, November 15, p. 20
i was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.
this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.
it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.
The OP confuses how WT directives are interpreted and applied in different countries that have different cultures with a clear top-down mandate.
Anthony Morris is a representative of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. They assert that they are the leadership of the "visible part" of Jehovah's Organization on earth. They regularly talk about this being an "international brotherhood."
What any GB member says is meant to be a directive for all JWs everywhere. Clearly, some JWs are more literal in obeying the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" than others. But this does not change what the GB intends.
They want everyone to obey them, even if what they say doesn't make any sense.
on jw tv.
anthony morris is ranting against higher education.
he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.
Satan lives in Universities and colleges and he also wears tight pants while he is there.
You for forgot to mention that is wife wears spanx when she exercises in public and the demons wear brightly colored socks.
this thread is to formally address this subject.
this is for forum members and especially for lurkers (current witnesses reading this in secret).
please feel free to post any additional points.. there are a lot of changes happening in wt land.
this thread is to formally address this subject.
this is for forum members and especially for lurkers (current witnesses reading this in secret).
please feel free to post any additional points.. there are a lot of changes happening in wt land.
TTATTElder: there is no financial transparency at the world headquarters. There is no Accounts Report from New York.
This was one of the first things that got me to begin "waking up" to the scam of this religion.
Every month, each and every congregation gives and open and (supposedly honest) report of their accounts. And yet the World Headquarters NEVER, EVER reports their financial activities.
Why is that?
The answer is obvious: they don't want anyone to know what they are doing.
The inference is equally damning: They are hypocrites of the highest order. They demand complete, unquestioning compliance of their underlings, yet they act as if they are completely above the law. Why? Because they are. They make "the laws" and it is clear from their actions that they do not believe these laws which they make apply to them.
Let's review: It's a cult!
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