Study history and you'll learn that it almost always has been worse. This is actually better!
Oubliette
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Can the world condition be worse than this?
by abiather inthe innocent civilians being attacked is the norm of the day.
attacking hospitals too are happening frequently.
now schools being attacked is becoming a regular affair (last of its kind massacred 150 children in peshawar on december 16, 2014)..
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2015/1/13/BOE!--Technical preparations for the 20l5 visit of headquarters representatives!
by Atlantis in(from the source).
2015 january 13, boe.. .. re: technical preparations for the 20l5 visit of headquarters representatives.
.. click the link by the little blue arrow and nothing else.. .. https://www.sendspace.com/file/0g0mr0.
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Oubliette
Thanks, Petra,
I see this is from the London Branch. Did they do this in the US as well?
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Some screenshots from new KH meeting!
by pixel in.
they just put up a link to watch a replay of the "new kh meeting", here some screenshots.. .
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Oubliette
Cappytan: Looks like a bank.
I second that.
DOC: they clearly have put the emphasis on future resale value.
I second that too!
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The Opal Ring: a story based on the true life of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Julia Orwell init's finally finished!
it's a fictional story about an old jw.
it is very long, about 7000 words.. the opal ring.
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The Fear mongering of this weeks WT study!
by stuckinarut2 inhave you all read this weeks study article?.
oh my word it is full of fear inducing tactics....doom and gloom outlooks.... anxiety inducing methods to develop absolute control over witnesses and cripple them in any attempt to think for themselves!.
(notice i am saying "themselves" rather than "ourselves"?!
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Yeah, the guy on the right looks like Vin Diesel.
It's blatant propaganda. Be glad you can recognize it for what it is. Feel for sorry for the suckers that fall for it.
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So my dad comes from vacation and ???!!!
by Kool Jo inhello folks.....so in an earlier thread i started, you'd realize that my father and i are quite close, we talk about almost everything/anything.. he traveled outside the country (he's semi-retired), enjoying the fruitage of his hard labor during his younger years.
so he recently returned home after he and mum went away to catchup with some old friends in another country.. upon his returning home, and subsequently to the meetings, he was told that a decision was made to strip him of his "field overseer" role, but will still continue to be an elder.. the reason...he goes away for too long too often...you can't be away from your congregation for three months out of the year!!!???
has anyone else had this experience before?
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Oubliette
The personality/culture of this religion is the same as a jealous and controlling spouse. They just can't stand anyone having any outside interests of their own.
It's a codependent relationship with the religion being the abuser and each individual being the abused enabler. Ironically, elders play both roles. They are the abusers when they act in their official capacity, they are the abused enabler as an individual.
There is only one way to have a healthy self-image in a situation like this: leave it.
Let's review: It's a cult!
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Don't you just love a great quote?
by stillin ini have seen a few here on this forum.
i just came across on in a book i'm reading that i thought i would share with you, appropriate to the forum.. "men think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one".
charles mackay in extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds (1841).
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Oubliette
Stillin, can you source that quote you attributed to Richard Feynman?
I don't believe he is the source.
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Don't you just love a great quote?
by stillin ini have seen a few here on this forum.
i just came across on in a book i'm reading that i thought i would share with you, appropriate to the forum.. "men think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one".
charles mackay in extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds (1841).
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"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire -
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To Blue Dot or Not to Blue Dot. That is the question ....
by Oubliette inso i've been noticing recently that some khs in the area where i live (socal) are putting up the jw.org little blue dot, but others are not.
i would think this would be a mandatory directive from hq.
does anyone here have any intel on the matter?.
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They should be displayed in an appropriate, dignified way.
Um, yeah!
How 'bout like, "Not at all!"
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To Blue Dot or Not to Blue Dot. That is the question ....
by Oubliette inso i've been noticing recently that some khs in the area where i live (socal) are putting up the jw.org little blue dot, but others are not.
i would think this would be a mandatory directive from hq.
does anyone here have any intel on the matter?.
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Oubliette
UNITY AT ALL COSTS
The following testimony excerpts are from the Pursuer's Proof of Douglas Walsh vs The Right Honourable James Latham Clyde,MP, PC, as representing the Minister of Labour and National Service. Copies of the complete transcript or parts thereof may be obtained from the Scottish Records Office, H.M. General Register House, Edinburgh, Scotland. The numbers following the quotations show the transcript page on which the testimony is found.
During the Scottish trial the directors of the Watchtower Society admitted ....
HAYDEN C COVINGTON - Former Lawyer for the Watchtower Society
Q. Is it not vital to speak the truth on religious matters?
A. It certainly is.
Q. You have promulgated - forgive the word - false prophecy?
A. We have. I do not think we have promulgated false prophecy, there have been statements that were erroneous, that is the way I put it, and mistaken.
Q. It was promulgated as a matter which must be believed by all members of Jehovah's witnesses that the Lord's Second Coming took place in 1874?
(A short discussion of evidence given by Fred W Franz about 1874 takes place here.)
Q. That was the publication of false prophecy?
A. That was the publication of a false prophecy, it was a false statement or an erroneous statement in fulfillment of a prophecy that was false or erroneous.
Q. And that had to be believed by the whole of Jehovah's Witnesses?
A. Yes, because you must understand, we must have unity, we cannot have disunity with a lot of people going every way, an army is supposed to march in step.
Q. Back to the point now, a false prophecy was promulgated? A. I agree to that.
Q. It had to be accepted by Jehovah's witnesses?
A. That is correct.
Q. If a member of Jehovah's witnesses took the view himself that that prophecy was wrong, and said so, would he be disfellowshipped?
A. Yes, if he said so, and kept on persisting in creating trouble, because if the whole organisation believes one thing, even though it be erroneous, and somebody else starts on his own trying to put his ideas across, then there is a disunity and trouble, there cannot be harmony, there cannot be marching ...... Our purpose is to have unity.
Q. Unity at all costs?
A. Unity at all costs, because we believe and are sure that Jehovah God is using our organisation,the governing body of our organisation, to direct it, even though mistakes are made from time to time.
Q. A unity based on an enforced acceptance of false prophecy?
A. That is conceded to be true.
Q. And the person who expresses his view, as you say, that it was wrong, and was disfellowshipped, would be in breach of the covenant, if he was baptised?
A. That is correct.
Q. And as you said yesterday expressly, would be worthy of death?
A. I think....
Q. Would you say yes or no?
A. I will answer yes, unhesitatingly.
Q. Do you call that religion?
A. It certainly is.
Q. Do you call that Christianity?
A. I certainly do.