Posts by Oubliette

Garrett: I think to myself, they aren't governmental authorities, thus I don't really have any reason to be obliged to speak or explain myself to them. they are just men after all

Congratulations. Once you get this that point it all gets easier!

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Elders Starting To Poke Around... Advice?

by Garrett in

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friends

as many of you know, i've been out of the organization for about a month now.

the elders haven't shown an interest in my absence until now.

today, i have received phone calls from two elders as well as a friend.

Oubliette

I understand it would make you anxious as you've been trained for as long as you've been a JW to obey the elders.

I would continue to just ignore it as much as possible. If you can't avoid them you can politely tell them something like, "Thanks for your concern. I'm dealing with some personal issues right now. I just need some time ..."

Essentially, you're telling them to mind their own business, albeit politely.

Be firm.

You might find this thread helpful:

Relationship Issues: Boundaries, Freedom of Choice and Codependency

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It must be of concern to the GB with all the information that is been leaked now

by joe134cd in

i was just watching cedars prank call to tomo3.

by the way lloyd very well done and totally funny.

but on a more serious note (and i think what must be of concern to the gb) are the amount of leaks that must be occurring at a senior level or at least by a person who has access to sensitive information.

Oubliette

It's an interesting case study in the psychopathology of the authoritarian personality (aka "control freaks").

The GB deliberately induce distrust among the R&F in order to keep everyone easier to control, and yet they are not self-aware enough to see that the same carefully calculated plan to create paranoia among their followers must of necessity eventually infect their own minds.

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New "I'm an ex-Mormon" video ... could easily fit a JW

by wannabefree in

check this one out and share with your jw friends if you can get away with it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-1ibfy2tou.

Oubliette

WBF: That's powerful. I wish I could figure out a way to get my kids to watch it!

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It must be of concern to the GB with all the information that is been leaked now

by joe134cd in

i was just watching cedars prank call to tomo3.

by the way lloyd very well done and totally funny.

but on a more serious note (and i think what must be of concern to the gb) are the amount of leaks that must be occurring at a senior level or at least by a person who has access to sensitive information.

Oubliette

joe134cd: It wasn't until I started visiting apostate Web sites, that I began to realize just how slowly information travels in the Org. God my family is only just telling me now stuff I knew weeks ago.

Oh yeah, we know stuff here before most elders do!

I imagine all of those leaks must drive the GB members even more crazy than they already are. If there is one thing that Control Freaks hate, it's anything that proves their lack of control.

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We Need a Video like this one

by TerryWalstrom in

this is very easy to watch and completely informative.. does anybody have the talent to put one together regarding watchtowerism?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vkt4hrbtuk.

Oubliette

Cool video, you wouldn't have to change much to make it spot on for JWs. But you'd have more success showing JWs this and Mormons the one about JWs.

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We Need a Video like this one

by TerryWalstrom in

this is very easy to watch and completely informative.. does anybody have the talent to put one together regarding watchtowerism?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vkt4hrbtuk.

Oubliette

Terry: It's easy to see 'crazy' in the "other" folks religion, but so difficult to see it in our own. I wonder why that is?

No. It's called cognitive dissonance, a well known and thoroughly documented psychological phenomenon.

It's one of the reasons that many Witnesses remain Witnesses in spite of the abundant evidence that it is a destructive, high-control, authoritarian cult run by clueless hypocrites and liars.