cappytan: I decided to read Dean Koontz on my tablet instead
Dean's the bomb! Which book?
I'm a huge fan of his. Problem is: he can somehow write books faster than I can find enough time to read 'em!
Oubliette
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Caleb & Sophia video Getting Big Coverage
by freemindfade inwow, i am kind of surprised the amount of attention this appalling video is getting from the media.
not surprised because it is appalling but that something that i grew up with was encapsulated in a cartoon and is exposing the witnesses publicly for mind control.. www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jehovah-witnesses-video-slammed-threats-kids-article-1.2116873.
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Semi Home Study Based Charter School vs. Regular School
by SonoftheTrinity ini blame my stepkids bad grades in school squarely on the watchtower.
they don't get enough sleep because of the demands of family bible study and thursday meetings but comprimise isn't in my wife's vocabulary.
my stepson has friends at school but there are also bullies, and the classes are overcrowded with sicknesses spreading through them in a way that is detrimental to the family's health.
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SotT: You've have? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw grammar stones LOL.
You got me.
SotT: Sorry for digressing.
No apologies necessary. That was well said. You clearly have your work cut out for you!
What does "IRL moral support" mean?
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Managing a doomsday cult
by Half banana inthe wtbts have only one objective: to keep their religious engine on the tracks.
the pastoral care of their followers (although they would publicly deny it) is right at the bottom of their priorities.they demand abject loyalty.
as a matter of sociological fact the subscribers to the watchtower belief are on average placed at the lowest rung of the income ladder and in the bottom category of the least educated of religious groups.
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Steve2: Drop the 1914 doctrine and every other JW teaching comes unstuck.
It's not as if there is any internal coherence to the JW "theology" as it is.
1914 is really just a slogan for them, one of their main "go to" pieces of cult propaganda.
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Caleb & Sophia video Getting Big Coverage
by freemindfade inwow, i am kind of surprised the amount of attention this appalling video is getting from the media.
not surprised because it is appalling but that something that i grew up with was encapsulated in a cartoon and is exposing the witnesses publicly for mind control.. www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jehovah-witnesses-video-slammed-threats-kids-article-1.2116873.
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Semi Home Study Based Charter School vs. Regular School
by SonoftheTrinity ini blame my stepkids bad grades in school squarely on the watchtower.
they don't get enough sleep because of the demands of family bible study and thursday meetings but comprimise isn't in my wife's vocabulary.
my stepson has friends at school but there are also bullies, and the classes are overcrowded with sicknesses spreading through them in a way that is detrimental to the family's health.
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SofT, Sometimes he just needs to sit there and think it through at his own pace ...
Exactly. Your biggest problem right now is how to get your family out of this cult!
If you can do that, you've have the majority of your problems solved.
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Managing a doomsday cult
by Half banana inthe wtbts have only one objective: to keep their religious engine on the tracks.
the pastoral care of their followers (although they would publicly deny it) is right at the bottom of their priorities.they demand abject loyalty.
as a matter of sociological fact the subscribers to the watchtower belief are on average placed at the lowest rung of the income ladder and in the bottom category of the least educated of religious groups.
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Magnum: I believe that a lot of JWs secretly wonder about and doubt certain JW things, but they're scared to say so. Or maybe they think they're only ones who feel that way - that something is wrong with them for feeling that way - so they keep silent ....
Dude, you nailed it!
I know for a long time I thought I was the only one that suspected something was wrong in JW-Land. I would try and drop little hints and innuendos to other JWs, but either they didn't see the same problems or were to terrified to share. That's a very lonely feeling.
It was very encouraging when I was directed to this forum and found out that thousands see the same hypocrisy and lies that I saw.
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How to wake up and reverse the trance???
by J-DUBBED inhow do you wake up someone taken from us by these screwed up people?.
our son was hooked by a jw at the age of 25. within 3 months they were married and we never even new about it.
he is now 29 and has nothing to do with his family(except his sister the odd time, when he needs something) of any freinds.. we are lost and have been for four years.. .
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J-Dubbed: He was giving her ultimatums "If we want to see him then we have to change/convert also".
Sure evidence your son is in a cult.
I suggest you and your wife get and read Steven Hassan's book, Releasing the Bonds.
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Semi Home Study Based Charter School vs. Regular School
by SonoftheTrinity ini blame my stepkids bad grades in school squarely on the watchtower.
they don't get enough sleep because of the demands of family bible study and thursday meetings but comprimise isn't in my wife's vocabulary.
my stepson has friends at school but there are also bullies, and the classes are overcrowded with sicknesses spreading through them in a way that is detrimental to the family's health.
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JWDaughter: I think you are being a bit elitist about it
What you call "elitist" I call being realistic.
It's funny, you agree with virtually everything I write, you just don't seem to like the way I write it. Oh, well.
My experience has been that the majority of families that I have worked with in our independent study program are successful, but a significant percentage are not. Judging solely by SotT's OP, he has all the hallmarks of someone that will not be successful: he has no confidence in the teacher(s), he overestimates his abilities to help his stepson with homework and he admits to not being able to maintain necessary communication with the school regarding something as mundane as an absence.
I hope he can be successful. But for him to do that he needs to be realistic, get organized, be disciplined, understand what he can and cannot do and work cooperatively with his son's teacher with the understanding they are all on the same team.
Returning to your comment about my being "elitist," I have to say, that is a very odd thing to say, and in fact you couldn't be more wrong. The skill set that children and their families need to be successful in an independent or home-school setting are most certainly not the exclusive domain of any allegedly "elite" group. I've seen wealthy families that were complete disasters in independent study programs and I've seen families that struggled financially make a huge success of these kinds of academic programs.
Success in independent study has nothing to do with being "elite;" it has to do with a certain work ethic and a particular temperament in the child. I have known many families where one child in the family took to independent study like the proverbial duck to water and yet another child in the same family struggled with the same program. Independent study is an alternative to traditional education. It is not the right fit for everyone.
Hell, some kids shouldn't be in school at all, but it's legally required in most states in the US until the child graduates, takes an equivalency test and/or emancipates.
Again, I'm a huge advocate of alternative education in its various forms. But it's not a cure-all for the many woes in education in America and it most certainly is not for everyone.
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Semi Home Study Based Charter School vs. Regular School
by SonoftheTrinity ini blame my stepkids bad grades in school squarely on the watchtower.
they don't get enough sleep because of the demands of family bible study and thursday meetings but comprimise isn't in my wife's vocabulary.
my stepson has friends at school but there are also bullies, and the classes are overcrowded with sicknesses spreading through them in a way that is detrimental to the family's health.
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GT, everything thing you said is really, really good advice!
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The beginning of the end for shunning?
by Saltheart Foamfollower inthe borg seem to prepare for changes by missing explanations out for a while then presenting a "new understanding" which doesn't contradict the most recent discussion.check out the most recent references to gog - no identification as satan.. in today's wt study, paragraph 15 concerning benefitting from the prodigal son stated "if we meet a person who has strayed from the congregation, will we offer loving and practical help to assist him to return?
" there is no footnote or other qualifier saying not to go to disfellowshipped ones (who are definitely the ones being talked about) which is still the official policy.
i know this isn't an ending to shunning, but it may signal the start of the preparation for a change.
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TD1914: The English version seems more loving.
May I clarify: The English version SEEMS more loving.
The WTBTS is all about appearances.
Let's review: It's a cult!
