Oubliette
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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.
by FadingTruth inaugust 2015 awake .
quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.
why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.
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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.
by FadingTruth inaugust 2015 awake .
quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.
why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.
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Newspaper article: 'Rise of ISIS and earthquakes are WARNINGS before ARMAGEDDON destroys Earth'
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/581439/rise-isis-earthquakes-warnings-before-armageddon-apocalypse-end-destroys-volcanoes-earth.
the "end" of mankind, which has been long predicted by jehovah's witnesses, could happen as soon as this year - according to latest announcement from the christian religion.. in the latest edition of jehovah's witnesses monthly publication watchtower, an article translated into 700 languages - urges people to join the religion or face certain death when god sends his forces from the heavens to "remove all world leaders," "exterminate his enemies" and "rid the world of satan".. critics have lambasted the warning of a coming armageddon as yet another "failed prediction" by the religion, which has previously delivered similar alerts such as a foretold apocalypse in 1975.. indeed, jehovah's witnesses have been warning people of the need to recognise jehovah or face certain death when the "end" comes for more than 100 years.. the christian-based religion was founded in the 1870s by charles taze russell in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, us, as an offshoot from the bible studies movement.. today, there are 8.2million jehovah's witness evangelists, while 19.9 million celebrated their annual memorial festival marking christ's death - worldwide in 2014.. followers do not believe in military service and will not accept blood transfusions.. in a new eight-page article, watchtower said jehovah's witness leaders are now "convinced" humans are in their "final days" before the armageddon.. they cite an increase in global armed conflict, such as the rise of the islamic state terror group, as well as natural disasters such as volcanoes and earthquakes.. the lengthy article, written by an unnamed author, said: "will god let humans continue to dominate one another and threaten the future of mankind?
no, as we have seen, he will step in and bring an end to centuries of misery and oppression.
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Loved the quotes from Paul Grundy of jwfacts!
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So I overheard a discussion that my son and wife were having about creation yesterday
by My Name is of No Consequence inso i am getting ready for bed yesterday night and i overhear my teenage son and wife talking about how the evidence of creation far outweighs the evidence of evolution.
i heard my son say that evolution has so many holes and how could something happen from nothing.
i wanted to open the door and ask them both how the creator happened from nothing just to see what they would say..
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MNIONC: I heard my son say that evolution has so many holes and how could something happen from nothing.
The first thing you need to do is to explain to your son that evolution is not the same thing as discussing the origin of life.
Evolution is indisputable. Even the WTBTS acknowledges that, only in such weasely language that it is hard to see unless you're really looking.
No one knows how life began. No one. This is why many people give up looking for answers, shrug their shoulders and say, "God did it!"
Maybe there was some outside intelligent being that started life here on this planet. I think the evidence for such a hypothesis is weak, but no one knows for sure. And of course you still have the problem of "Where did that creator come from?" At least for now, that is an unanswerable question either way.
On the other hand, if there was some intelligent being(s) that planted/seeded/started life here on Earth, it sure as hell wasn't the capricious, narcissistic, genocidal desert god of the Old Testament. Now THERE'S A STORY THAT'S FULL OF HOLES!
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Another "damned if they do/don't" Thread & the Perpetual Motion Machine
by DarioKehl ina few days ago, a jw apologist posted a thread with a similar title.
although he was defending their behavior, i've observed this cycle as well.
i have a different spin on it, though.. how often do you see posts from people who are upset that "no one even bothers to check in on me," only to read as many threads about "they keep calling & texting--why won't they leave me alone?
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Flipper: Satan keeps you so busy dad growing an organic vegetable garden
Wow, I didn't know Satan was into organic veggies!
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Proof - of what?
by Doltologist ina few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.
being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.
the first was called "was life created?
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Doltologist, I understood what you meant, I was directing my comments at the WT goofy language. We know lurkers are reading here too!
Sorry if I wasn't clear.
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jwtalk...wow. just...wow.
by HeyThere inso i was lurking on jwtalk after trying to read the thread on there about the broadcast about the conti case...and holy moly there are some bat ish crazy talk on that site!
they also blocked the thread about the broadcast, lol!
they are scuuuuured (scared).
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There is alot of talk about how Conti is just driven by greed to pursue the WTS and not Kendrick.
Even if that were true, which it isn't, it conveniently evades the real problem: Pedophiles in JW-land and the WT policies that encourage them!
JWs are masters at avoiding the real issues.
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Another "damned if they do/don't" Thread & the Perpetual Motion Machine
by DarioKehl ina few days ago, a jw apologist posted a thread with a similar title.
although he was defending their behavior, i've observed this cycle as well.
i have a different spin on it, though.. how often do you see posts from people who are upset that "no one even bothers to check in on me," only to read as many threads about "they keep calling & texting--why won't they leave me alone?
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OEJ: It makes your entire life feel like it's all been fake and a lie and manipulation
That's because it was.
OEJ: I think what the OP misses is that there's more than 2 choices. When someone stops going to the cult meetings, the options aren't limited to either hounding/manipulation tactics or complete shunning. There's the "normal" option of just interacting with a person like they're a damn human being and not trying to manipulate them in any way.
Well said!
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Another "damned if they do/don't" Thread & the Perpetual Motion Machine
by DarioKehl ina few days ago, a jw apologist posted a thread with a similar title.
although he was defending their behavior, i've observed this cycle as well.
i have a different spin on it, though.. how often do you see posts from people who are upset that "no one even bothers to check in on me," only to read as many threads about "they keep calling & texting--why won't they leave me alone?
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Dario, your OP does bring up an interesting dichotomy.
No one wants to be hounded, but it is also emotionally painful to find out that all of those friendships which we thought were "friends closer than a brother" were simply conditional, superficial, cult-indoctrinated relationships. It's even worse when we find out that family members will often shun us too just because we no longer want to carry on the pretense of belief in their delusions.
What is missing from your OP is the kind of relationships that should exist in the religion, but doesn't: real ones. Probably none of us would object to people calling to check on us and see how we are if it was real and genuine and not just an attempt to get us to rejoin the cult or worse, find some "dirt" on us and haul us into a judicial committee.
Let's review: It's a cult!
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How big of a problem is apostasy.
by joe134cd ini often wonder if apostasy could be defined as the "silent problem", as the majority who leave for this reason choose to fade saying nothing.
in all the decades i was a witness i could probably count on 2 hands those who were disfellowshipped for apostasy.i must admit it wasn't until i came on the internet that i fully realise the depth and extent of the problem.
i think of that young girl high school speech that went viral, and you can't tell me all those 300000+ views were all none jws.
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With out a doubt I think the majority are leaving or been forced to leave because of immorality.
Of course once you realize the religion is a false construct of delusional humans you also understand that concepts such as "immorality" are part of the contrived belief system.
Ultimately, whatever the reason a person leaves or is "kicked-out" it's because they do not share the groupthink delusion of the cult.
A cult has to demonize such individuals to maintain their fragile beliefs and keep control.