Oubliette

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  August 2015 Awake! FML

  by InjusticeSystem in

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  2. bible

  i'm gonna have to stop reading this shit just for my own sanity and the survival of my computer.

  august 2015 awake!.

  can we please destroy this box that they keep publishing with some actual facts?

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  done4good, I think you proved my point. Thanks!
  
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  Prayer - The ultimate act of stupidity

  by Doltologist in

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  2. experiences

  prayer is the act of saying something to someone that doesn't exist.

  above all else, we need to respect ourselves for, if we don't, we are not capable of respecting others..

  thirdly, bow to no one for if they had any respect for you, they wouldn't ask you to bow..

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  Doltologist: a universe out of nothing is perfectly feasible and is permissible within the existing laws of physics

  Well that would have to be true because scientific laws are, by definition, "a generalization about data ... a compact way of describing what we'd expect to happen in a particular situation."
  
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  Prayer - The ultimate act of stupidity

  by Doltologist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  prayer is the act of saying something to someone that doesn't exist.

  above all else, we need to respect ourselves for, if we don't, we are not capable of respecting others..

  thirdly, bow to no one for if they had any respect for you, they wouldn't ask you to bow..

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  Doltologist: Science is the search for the truth

  I wouldn't put it that way. Science is fundamentally a human philosophical endeavor to seek knowledge, to find explanations and to understand things as they really are rather than how we may think they are.

  Science differs from religion in that science seeks to discover knowledge as opposed to claiming that it comes from some sort of supernatural revelation.

  Also, what scientists discover is to be shared with all, whereas religious leaders try to assert claims of exclusivity, primarily to seize control and power over others.
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  Prayer - The ultimate act of stupidity

  by Doltologist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  prayer is the act of saying something to someone that doesn't exist.

  above all else, we need to respect ourselves for, if we don't, we are not capable of respecting others..

  thirdly, bow to no one for if they had any respect for you, they wouldn't ask you to bow..

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  Punkofnice: Oh, here we go. Christians VS: Atheists.

  Well what do you expect considering the thread title? Seriously?

  It's gotta be atheists vs. theists. Or there's no discussion or debate, just, "Yeah, that's right!"
  

  Doltologist: This forum, bless it, is one of the few that will allow discourse between believers and non-believers to take place.

  Amen for that!
  
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  Prayer - The ultimate act of stupidity

  by Doltologist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  prayer is the act of saying something to someone that doesn't exist.

  above all else, we need to respect ourselves for, if we don't, we are not capable of respecting others..

  thirdly, bow to no one for if they had any respect for you, they wouldn't ask you to bow..

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  "If you talk to God, you are praying; If God talks to you, you have schizophrenia." - Thomas Szasz
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  Prayer - The ultimate act of stupidity

  by Doltologist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  prayer is the act of saying something to someone that doesn't exist.

  above all else, we need to respect ourselves for, if we don't, we are not capable of respecting others..

  thirdly, bow to no one for if they had any respect for you, they wouldn't ask you to bow..

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  You might as well Pray to a Jug of Milk:

  
  Pray to a Jug of Milk
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  "do not go beyond the things written"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  thanks to bu2b and splash who mentioned this quote in another thread!.

  but i thought it deserved a thread all of its own, such is the impact of this:.

  the very best example of going beyond the things written comes from a 2008 watchtower.

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  Stuck, you weren't supposed to notice!
  

  That's like spoiling the end of a movie, or telling the punchline of a joke when another person is just beginning the setup, or like telling how a magic trick works.

  You're not a very good sport, Stuckie!

  Bad, Stuck, Bad, bad, Stuck.
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  Passive aggressive circuit overseer talk

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went and listened to the circuit overseer talk last night.

  he started off by saying how many jws are in prisons in other countries and how we need to be prepared for when we are persecuted by the governments because it will happen "soon".

  near the end of the talk he got into how our own minds often imagine the very worst case scenario and that this isn't good.

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  Hoser: The abuser blames the victim

  Always, it's part of the way it works.

  
  
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  August 2015 Awake! FML

  by InjusticeSystem in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm gonna have to stop reading this shit just for my own sanity and the survival of my computer.

  august 2015 awake!.

  can we please destroy this box that they keep publishing with some actual facts?

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  I'm a little confused by the expression "Albert Einstein’s theory of gravity."

  Modern theories of gravitation are generally associated with Isaac Newton, whereas, Einstein is more widely known for his ideas on relativity. Certainly, Einstein's work related to gravity, but to use this expression with its unusual association and not have any explanation for its use just seems odd.

  I suppose that's what happens when WT writers write about things they don't really understand. Maybe they fall into the category of people that think if you use Einstein's name in a sentence it makes you appear intelligent. I'm surprised they didn't also refer to "quantum mechanics" while they were at it!

  That being said, you may appreciate that in a largely favorable review of the work cited, the Encyclopedia of Scientific Principles, Laws, and Theories by Robert E. Krebs, reviewers Adam M. Kiefer and Kevin Drace pointed out a flaw in this work, one that is particular relevant to the point under discussion. They comment that this second edition continues the "erroneous presentation of theories being built from laws."

  Interesting! I bet the WT writer that lifted these blurbs in a failed attempt to appear smart wasn't aware of that!

  
  
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  rejection of your own founder?

  by Mr.logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what kind of confidence can anyone have in an organization that rejected its founder and first two presidents for the first 63 years of its existence?

  that's 53% of the time they existed!

  any comments.

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  Oubliette

  Great point Mr. Logic!