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  When the WTS saw Catholic Church abuse being exposed

  by Simon in

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  2. child-abuse

  there was a time when the abuse issues in the catholic church were first starting to be exposed.. now, they were fully aware that they had the exact same issues that they too were covering up.. what did they choose to do?.

  they could have "learnt" and said "man, that looks bad and we know we have the same problem - but at least we can learn something and put processes in place to make sure we clean up our act".. they could have done nothing themselves but refrained from criticized the catholic church knowing that they had the same skeletons in their own closet.. what did they actually do?.

  they wen't full guns criticizing the catholics for something they knew they were completely guilty of as well, painting themselves as 'the good guys where this sort of thing would never happen' but the only processes they put in place were to tighten up how cover-ups were managed and to make sure the local elders knew how to silence any incidents.

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  BluesBrother, those are great excerpts. Thanks for sharing.

  Oh, the irony!

  Karma's a bitch

  
  
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  Samuel Herd 3 min video - the most misogynistic words I ever heard from a "godly man"

  by paradisebeauty in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=72&v=9vvqxf9uwu0.

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  "Thus we had mankind because woman is a kind of man."

  Did he really just say that? What an idiot.

  "Let's play house ..."

  The girls I grew up with wanted to "play doctor." Let's just say we had a lot more fun.

  There's nothing more exciting to me than a strong, confident woman.
  
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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  Good for you.

  Too bad you're in NorCal and I'm in SoCal or I'd take you out for a beer!
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  Feedback on RC from JW Friendly Site

  by konceptual99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there has been some comment on the latest rc proceedings on that well know jw friendly site.. one set of posts has been particularly interesting as the poster related their own experience as an abuse victim when they were a child in the congregation.

  this of course took courage and the poster deserves no criticism at all for this.

  he is, however, still very supportive of the organisation.. this is his latest post:.

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  For example they repeatedly refuse to accept that abuse survivors are not expected to confront their abuser. There is a 1995 WT article and advice in the elder's manual that says that they can write a letter.

  Mr Stewart repeatedly asked for documentary proof of this assertion. No such documentation was offered in any testimony I ever read.
  
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  AUSTRALIA - All large JW Regional Conventions cancelled for 2015

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  now we know why the governing body of jehovah's witnesses cancelled all the major regional conventions of jehovah's witnesses for 2015 and are only holding smaller conventions at the jw assembly halls.

  "imitate jesus" convention series australia schedule .

  interestingly the first round of regional conventions are due this weekend in the jw assembly halls in sydney (new south wales), melbourne (victoria), and brisbane (queensland).

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  What an interesting irony:

  RC = Regional Convention, but also

  RC = Royal Commission!
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  where there was a conflict between the Bible and science, the Bible would prevail, because all scripture is "inspired by God"

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  thought i would put this in its own thread.

  it another embarrassing statement from the rc (royal commission not regional convention lol).

  it's not even one about abuse, its about the jw's stance on science and the bible.

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  Sweeney, thanks!
  
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  where there was a conflict between the Bible and science, the Bible would prevail, because all scripture is "inspired by God"

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  thought i would put this in its own thread.

  it another embarrassing statement from the rc (royal commission not regional convention lol).

  it's not even one about abuse, its about the jw's stance on science and the bible.

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  Can someone clarify?

  Who is Mr. Spinks?

  What day of transcripts is this from?

  Thanks in advance.
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  Shameless lies of the head of Australian Betel just to protect the GB

  by paradisebeauty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  watching the royal commission videos from day 6.. the head of the australian branch is such a liar.

  he keeps saying they have the right to make decisions and regulations if they are in accordance with the scriptures, but we all know this is such a lie!!!!.

  he is just trying to protect the gb members from bring forced to testify!!

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  They do have that right. And the governments have the right to prosecute them for exercising their right to make decisions which break the government's laws.

  JW's just see it as "persecution for righteousness's sake." Whatever.

  To any reasonable person, it is clear that WT "policies, practices and procedures" are woefully lacking in righteousness. They protect pedophiles and needlessly cause additional pain and suffering to their victims.
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  the rumor again surfaces....

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  someone please tell me how or if i can find proof that the rumor [that is pasted below] that was posted by a friend [still in, but should know better] on my face book page is false, [which of course we all know it is,] this makes me so angry, i have to stick my neck out and comment on this post but need something to back me up....anyone want to enlighten me where this got started?

  i need proof he never said such a thing, it seems to me its false.

  whats interesting is this, the bible in the photo accompanying the statement below is the latest version.... [photo].

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  A: The most gullible people on Earth.
  

  Q: Who are Jehovah's Witnesses?
  
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  Royal Commission - Clarification of 1,006 unreported abusers

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  knowing that many here like to relate information as accurately as possible i just wanted to make a clarification regarding the unreported abusers in the australian jw religion.. it is not correct for us to state that there are 1,006 cases of unreported abusers in australia since 1950. .

  this is what the commission has reported in the opening address .

  those documents include 1,006 case files relating to allegations of child sexual abuse made against members of the jehovahs witness church in australia since 1950 each file for a different alleged perpetrator of child sexual abuse.

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  A couple of important points to keep in mind, the majority of sexual abusers do not limit themselves to a single victim. Dr. Monica Applewhite acknowledged that in her testimony. Also, it is likely that there are abusers whom the WT Australia Branch is unaware. This means that the 1,006 known abusers represent a much larger number of victims. How many, it is impossible to know.

  Let's extrapolate this to the Worldwide Work, shall we?

  There were 66,484 publishers in Australia last year and 7,867,958 average publishers total (source: 2015 Yearbook).

  A little quick math suggests that there likely has been more than 100,000 abusers in the organization over the last half century. This suggests that there has been many hundreds of victims of their abuse, possibly in the millions!

  Obviously, this mental exercise involves a certain amount of conjecture and speculation, but I don't believe there is any valid reason to believe the problem in Australia is unique or significantly different to any other area or culture. Are Australians more depraved than other people? Nothing suggests this. On the contrary, that the Australian government is leading the way in addressing it suggests the opposite if anything.
  

  Also, I have not made any attempts to adjust for various growth rates of the religion throughout the world over the last 50 years. But I don't think that is important or necessary to understand the point.
  

  What is important is to allow the significance of the known facts to really sink in. Take some time with this and ponder what it really says about this religion, particularly in light of its history of pointing their finger at other religions meanwhile denying their own moral failing. Really consider the magnitude of this problem.
  

  Then, let's review: It's not just a cult, it is one of the worst, most damaging and destructive religious cults in the history of mankind!

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