Oubliette

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  Science Will Never Contradict The Bible

  by Perry in

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  so claims nuclear physicist

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  Dr. Brandon van der Ventel says of the Genesis account in the Bible, “It points to God as the all-mighty Creator: a timeless, spaceless, immaterial and personal Being who is both the explanation and cause of the universe.”

  He neglects to mention that this same God is a capricious, narcissistic, genocidal maniac that will kill you if you happen to guess incorrectly about which of the countless religions on Earth are representing him and which are not. Also, God needs money. Please send some, just don't send it to the wrong religion or, guess what? He'll have to kill you!
  
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  JW sisters reaction to the cutbacks

  by umbertoecho in

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  i had gone away for a rest and came back to pick my animals up.

  (yes we share one common thing.

  the love of animals).

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  LisaRose: there are so many signs of trouble it's getting harder and harder to pretend that everything is fine.

  True dat!
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  Message from an elder

  by paradisebeauty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  elder: plese watch the november programm on jw broadcasting.. me: what i hope for is the change of the doctrine that states that jesus is not the mediator between jehovah and all jw's but only between jehovah and the 144000. i believe jesus is my mediator even if i am not one of the 144000. .

  elder: may jehovah open your mind and heart.

  me: may he open everyone's mind and heart.

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  So the elder didn't actually say why he wanted you to watch it.

  I hate when people do stuff like that. It's bad enough he treats you like a child telling you what to do, but it's really dumb when he can't/won't even say why.

  Next month text him: You really need to watch the December jw.tv broadcast!

  If he asks why, respond, "Watch it, you'll know!"
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  I think I was off the day they taught ...

  by Simon in

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  does anyone else have those things that everyone else seems to know ... except you?

  it's like you were off the day it was taught in school and you don't know that you don't know about it.

  but everyone else does.. i have a couple .... first, days of the month.

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  I can do stoichiometric calculations and identify the spectator ions in a net ionic equation or analyze the harmony of a Bach four part chorale, but I can never remember which side of the plate the knives and forks are supposed to go on.
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  Message from an elder

  by paradisebeauty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  elder: plese watch the november programm on jw broadcasting.. me: what i hope for is the change of the doctrine that states that jesus is not the mediator between jehovah and all jw's but only between jehovah and the 144000. i believe jesus is my mediator even if i am not one of the 144000. .

  elder: may jehovah open your mind and heart.

  me: may he open everyone's mind and heart.

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  Did he say WHY you should watch that particular program?
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  SHUNNING - Unchristian Psychological Torture

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some time ago, i wrote an extensive article on shunning and published it on my website.

  since that website had views on doctrinal matters that no longer reflect my current stand, i took the website down.

  however, my views on this matter are still current, and for the benefit of everyone here, i'm going to post the article here.

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  Eden, good job. Thanks for doing this!
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  If I've been testy lately, here's why.

  by cappytan in

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  2. friends

  my parents are visiting for not-thanksgiving.

  dad started bringing up spiritual stuff and i almost screwed up my fade.. it's so hard to have a genuine discussion about the issues in the organization when you have become an atheist.

  it feels icky and disgusting to have to pretend and nod your head at such platitudes as "you just need to have faith"..."trust in jehovah"..."jehovah will correct it"..."remember ray franz?

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  Smiddy: God is like Santa Clause , it`s just for children.

  God doesn't threaten to kill you if you disobey, you just won't get presents.
  
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  If I've been testy lately, here's why.

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my parents are visiting for not-thanksgiving.

  dad started bringing up spiritual stuff and i almost screwed up my fade.. it's so hard to have a genuine discussion about the issues in the organization when you have become an atheist.

  it feels icky and disgusting to have to pretend and nod your head at such platitudes as "you just need to have faith"..."trust in jehovah"..."jehovah will correct it"..."remember ray franz?

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  nowwhat? You seem like a good guy I wish you would re think about being an atheist

  “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen Roberts
  
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  If I've been testy lately, here's why.

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my parents are visiting for not-thanksgiving.

  dad started bringing up spiritual stuff and i almost screwed up my fade.. it's so hard to have a genuine discussion about the issues in the organization when you have become an atheist.

  it feels icky and disgusting to have to pretend and nod your head at such platitudes as "you just need to have faith"..."trust in jehovah"..."jehovah will correct it"..."remember ray franz?

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  Good call Billy.

  I predict #1
  
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  Cracked under pressure

  by breezy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a big problem i have always had when talking about anything related to jw teachings, is that i get aggravated and frustrated when logical black and white concepts/scriptures are not seen/interpreted in a logical way.

  it really frustrates me having to hear '' oh no this does not apply here '' in every scripture that i bring to my parents attention.

  starting from when i was 16 to about 20, my frustrations would lead to these anger fits.

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  Breezy, it happens. In the grand scheme of things your blow-up is no big deal.

  The fact is, you are having to suppress your authentic identity and pretend to be someone you're not. This is difficult psychological pressure to have to try and hold inside.

  Keep in mind that your parents are in a high-control, authoritarian cult that ruthlessly discourages critical thinking and individuality. Your parents are also conflicted, they just don't understand it like you do.

  Hang in there, you'll get better at dealing with it. I suggest you apologize to your parents for HOW you acted, but not for anything you said.

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