Posts by Oubliette

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JW's just like Nazi SS troops?????

by Crazyguy in

is is not true that just like ss troops guarding and operating in a concentration camp jw's would just do whatever they are told?

ss troops were told to kill jews and most just went along with it without question.

it scares me to think that most jw's would go along with whatever they're told by their leaders without question..this is one of the reasons why i come here almost every day to see and read posts about whats going on in the religion, so i can be prepared to go save my family from this cult if i need to...

Oubliette

Simon: The main difference seems to be that people are motivated to do what they believe to be right. They don't necessarily do evil solely because of deference to authority.

I didn't get that from the Independent article. My take is that most people will supress their own conscience due to the influence of authority, not because they're evil, but because they want to please whoever is authority.

The article didn't dispute the facts about the Milgram experiment, just what motivated the majority of people to keep administering (what they believed to be) painful, even lethal, electric shocks.

Simon: It shows the importance of challenging and debunking bad ideas including the ones people follow because of religion.

It's important to keep in mind that, in academe, no one establishes a reptuation by agreeing with the status quo.

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GREAT QUOTES, but filtered to include Jehovah's Witnesses

by Terry in

great quotes viewed with jw's in mind_______________________________________ some people die at 25 and arent buried until 75. benjamin franklin________________________________________________jehovahs witnesses stop growing, improving, learning when they accept the watchtowers misnamed truth.

lost souls waiting at a bus stop for a bus that never comes; all the great things they could have done, people they could have helped, productive lives they could have led are suffocated by standing there waiting for armageddon to solve every problem for them.___________________________________________________ most people are other people.

their thoughts are someone elses opinions.

Oubliette

Great collection of quotes relevant to JWs and more importantly ex-JWs!

Thanks!!!

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JW's just like Nazi SS troops?????

by Crazyguy in

is is not true that just like ss troops guarding and operating in a concentration camp jw's would just do whatever they are told?

ss troops were told to kill jews and most just went along with it without question.

it scares me to think that most jw's would go along with whatever they're told by their leaders without question..this is one of the reasons why i come here almost every day to see and read posts about whats going on in the religion, so i can be prepared to go save my family from this cult if i need to...

Oubliette

Simon: There is some opinion that the conclusions from the experiments was flawed.

You're funny. You cite the Milgram experiment, saying it, "showed that even housewives in the US would apply what they believed were lethal levels of electric shock to people they could hear screaming as long as someone in authority told them to."

Then I post two different videos confirming it and you post a news article contradicting it, saying, "the conclusions from the experiments was [sic] flawed."

Curious.

I read the Indepdent article. The gist of it is that now some researcher argue "that the meaning of the experiment has been widely misunderstood." It in no way invalidates WHAT the results of the experiment demonstrated, namely that the majority of "ordinary people will inflict extraordinary harm upon others, if someone in authority gives the orders."

Rather, these researchers--Professor Alex Haslam (University of Queensland), Professor Stephen Reicher (University of St Andrews), Professor Kathryn Millard (Macquarie University) and Professor Rachel McDonald (University of Kansas)--disagree with the motivation that people have for inflicting pain on others: "Far from being distressed by the experience, the researchers found that most volunteers said they were very happy to have participated," adding, "Far from being distressed by the experience, the researchers found that most volunteers said they were very happy to have participated."

Apparently, when someone in authority tells us to do bad things to other people, it makes us "happy" to blindly obey.

I don't see how that's better than Milgram's initial conclusion. Indeed, it maybe far, far worse.

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Sexually repressed and frustrated Jws....

by stuckinarut2 in

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i wonder how many jws are sexually frustrated due to the repressive views of the org?.

im sure that there are millions of messed up witnesses who have been severely damaged due to the teachings and guilt that the org places on all members.. now, i'm not encouraging a reckless lifestyle, but i'm sure so many more problems are experienced by witnesses just because of the suppressed and guilt laden attitudes the org has perpetuated!

they can even be open in their marriages!.

Oubliette

stuckinarut2: I wonder how many jws are sexually frustrated due to the repressive views of the org?

That's easy: All of them.

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JW's just like Nazi SS troops?????

by Crazyguy in

is is not true that just like ss troops guarding and operating in a concentration camp jw's would just do whatever they are told?

ss troops were told to kill jews and most just went along with it without question.

it scares me to think that most jw's would go along with whatever they're told by their leaders without question..this is one of the reasons why i come here almost every day to see and read posts about whats going on in the religion, so i can be prepared to go save my family from this cult if i need to...

Oubliette

ABC News Primetime: Milgram Experiment

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JW's just like Nazi SS troops?????

by Crazyguy in

is is not true that just like ss troops guarding and operating in a concentration camp jw's would just do whatever they are told?

ss troops were told to kill jews and most just went along with it without question.

it scares me to think that most jw's would go along with whatever they're told by their leaders without question..this is one of the reasons why i come here almost every day to see and read posts about whats going on in the religion, so i can be prepared to go save my family from this cult if i need to...

Oubliette

Milgram Experiment - 2/3

Milgram Experiment - 3/3

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JW's just like Nazi SS troops?????

by Crazyguy in

is is not true that just like ss troops guarding and operating in a concentration camp jw's would just do whatever they are told?

ss troops were told to kill jews and most just went along with it without question.

it scares me to think that most jw's would go along with whatever they're told by their leaders without question..this is one of the reasons why i come here almost every day to see and read posts about whats going on in the religion, so i can be prepared to go save my family from this cult if i need to...

Oubliette

Simon: Experiments showed that even housewives in the US would apply what they believed were lethal levels of electric shock to people they could hear screaming as long as someone in authority told them to.

For those that aren't familiar with what Simon mentioned, watch this video. Prepared to be disturbed by what this says about human nature:

Milgram's Obedience to Authority Experiment 2009

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JW's just like Nazi SS troops?????

by Crazyguy in

is is not true that just like ss troops guarding and operating in a concentration camp jw's would just do whatever they are told?

ss troops were told to kill jews and most just went along with it without question.

it scares me to think that most jw's would go along with whatever they're told by their leaders without question..this is one of the reasons why i come here almost every day to see and read posts about whats going on in the religion, so i can be prepared to go save my family from this cult if i need to...

Oubliette

CG: I come here almost every day to see and read posts about whats going on in the religion, so I can be prepared to go save my family from this Cult if I need to..

How do you plan to save your family?

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