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  Review of the www.ibsaconvention.org booking and Special Price

  by Da.Furious in

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  new hotel booking for regional convention in uk.

  the website is called ibsaconvention.org.

  in order to be able to start booking you need a congregation number which is provided to the congregation by the branch..

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  Didn't our Lord and Savior make his entrance into this world in humble accommodations because there was no room at the in?
  

  How thoughtful that the modern organization has gotten into the hotel booking business.
  
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  I'm at a loss at how to get thru to my parents. I fear they will die before they will stop shunning me.

  by cognisonance in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all i want is this: for us to be a family, to spend time together enjoying life.

  i don't wish to debate about their beliefs when together.

  they can remain jws for all i care.

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  "This is the most perfect, imperfect organization... It has to be the truth."

  This is of course a completely illogical statement. The conclusion in no way follows from the premise, which is itself flawed.

  As intelligent a person as your father maybe, he clearly succumbs to stubbornly holding on to his beliefs when anything threatens them.

  Although it probably will not help him see TTATT, you might find this book enlightening as to why otherwise smart people refuse to accept obvious truth:

  Mistakes Were Made (but not by me)
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  Called on a DF'd person today.

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wow, what a surprise that was!.

  i expected a warm welcome, as this was someone i have known for a very long time.. nope, uber disfellowshipped jw.

  totally caught me off guard.

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  How could you be out and not research the JW's on the internet? It's not like they'll DF you again.

  Your question illustrates the difference between being physically out and mentally out.
  

  
  
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  Who Benefits from the Multi-Billion Dollar Real Estate Empire that is WT?

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this thread is to formally address this subject.

  this is for forum members and especially for lurkers (current witnesses reading this in secret).

  please feel free to post any additional points.. there are a lot of changes happening in wt land.

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  DD: Paul MADE tents. Would a CO even SELL tents at Bass Pro or Wal-Mart?!?! Lol!!!

  Paul made tents. Most CO's make me tense! (Say it out loud)
  
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  deliberate deception by org

  by Magnum in

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  2. beliefs

  there is ample evidence of the jw organizations being deceptive (for example, misusing quotes in publications such as the trinity brochure and the creation book), but a few years ago i noticed one glaring example of deception that is worth noting..

  part #4 for the theocratic ministry school for the week of july 21, 2008 was how can false prophets be identified?

  the material was the reasoning book beginning on page 132 (there was a similar service meeting part the week of 8-26-13)..

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  Magnum, excellent OP!

  The pattern of deception, lies and coverups all point to one conclusion: It's deliberate and the WT leadership know it.

  They act very differently than the standards they hold everyone else to. There's a word for this and you know it: hypocrisy.

  The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses make the Pharisees of the Bible look like amateurs.

  Let's review: It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  NEW LIGHT FROM SLO CIRCUIT OVERSEER "Warning, Blood on Doorposts", "The Couple who Missed One Meeting Died With Their Kids, Don't Miss Any!

  by Trailer Park Pioneer in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sorry, i messed up before i could put the right title on this new light from our circuit overseer, his visit show's a great desperation in the organization's mindset, adding more anxiety and guilt to jws who already feel they don't measure up!.

  hi, i attended the circuit overseers visit and got really angry because our c.o.

  gave information coming from the governing body's chief apologists regarding "meeting attendance" and "the couple who missed one meeting and lost their entire family because they did not get the "411" when armageddon was coming!

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  notsurewheretogo, beat me to it!
  

  I'll add this prophecy: Everyone you know is going to die. So are you. Armageddon isn't coming. The GB are a bunch of delusional old fools.

  Let's review: It's a cult!
  
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  WTS leader rants against higher education

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on jw tv.

  anthony morris is ranting against higher education.

  he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.

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  "At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. (4) Now is the time for any who may be putting their trust in secular education, material things, or human institutions to adjust their thinking. The elders must stand ready to help any who may now be wavering in their faith." - w2013, November 15, p. 20

  
  
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  Is Watchtower's stance against education only for North American witnesses

  by wannaexit in

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  2. friends

  i was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.

  this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.

  it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.

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  The OP confuses how WT directives are interpreted and applied in different countries that have different cultures with a clear top-down mandate.

  Anthony Morris is a representative of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. They assert that they are the leadership of the "visible part" of Jehovah's Organization on earth. They regularly talk about this being an "international brotherhood."

  What any GB member says is meant to be a directive for all JWs everywhere. Clearly, some JWs are more literal in obeying the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" than others. But this does not change what the GB intends.

  They want everyone to obey them, even if what they say doesn't make any sense.
  
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  WTS leader rants against higher education

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on jw tv.

  anthony morris is ranting against higher education.

  he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.

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  Satan lives in Universities and colleges and he also wears tight pants while he is there.

  You for forgot to mention that is wife wears spanx when she exercises in public and the demons wear brightly colored socks.
  
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  Who Benefits from the Multi-Billion Dollar Real Estate Empire that is WT?

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this thread is to formally address this subject.

  this is for forum members and especially for lurkers (current witnesses reading this in secret).

  please feel free to post any additional points.. there are a lot of changes happening in wt land.

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  Oubliette

  But Jesus said to him: “Foxes have dens and birds of heaven have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay down his head.” - Matthew 8:20