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  A quick summary of topics and issues wrong with jws

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  you know how our minds often get all "fuzzy" and confused when we are put on the spot and asked to come up with points?

  we often tend to lose focus and go off on tangents?.

  im trying to compile a basic list of bullet points for the most obvious and clear problems / doctrines / history of witnesses that can blow the org out of the water.. it is more for the purpose of getting my own thoughts clear rather than using it to talk to witnesses (as that doesn't really work).

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  • A focus on the tightness of one's pants and the color of their socks rather than on the quality of their character
  • The demonizing of higher education
  • tv.jw.org
  • the constant begging for money
  • shunning
  • the blood doctrine
    

  
  
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  Hello

  by Garrett in

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  2. friends

  hello forum,.

  i'm new here and not sure where to post.

  so, i'm 21 years old and currently a baptized witness, however, i'm slowly making my mind up to leave and here's why.. first, there are certain things that make no sense to me in the organization.

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  Garrett,

  Don't write a letter. It will only make things worse. Just leave, or better yet--since you haven't gone to a meeting in 2 weeks--just stay away. Don't go back.

  Fading is a slow and painful process. Simply stopping is much better (although not everyone can emotionally pull it off).

  When the elders do start hounding you say something like, "I told you, 'I'm depressed,' please just leave me alone."

  If they ask anything else, especially "loyalty questions," just repeat the above.

  I recommend reading Steven Hassan's book, Releasing the Bonds. It's very helpful.

  
  

  

  
  

  Best wishes,

  Oubliette
  
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  Last nights meeting...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
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  i know dubs are delusional.

  i know dubs don't reason well.

  i know dubs are a bit off, like many groups.

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  Caleb at 85, "Where the hell is this promised presence? I'm old, my body's falling apart. I've got no retirement. My children left 'the Truth.' I'm all alone here!"

  
  
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  Last nights meeting...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
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  i know dubs are delusional.

  i know dubs don't reason well.

  i know dubs are a bit off, like many groups.

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  FMF: I always had a fear in the back of my mind all these years, what if this was just another mainstream religion.

  No. Mainstream religions do not excommunicate and shun people for victimless "crimes" and certainly not for simply disagreeing with their delusional leadership!

  This religion is a high-control authoritarian group otherwise known as a cult.

  
  
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  GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

  i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

  we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

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  A series of Public talks and Watchtower Studies will be streamed over the Internet

  

  
  

  How nice!
  

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

  i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

  we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

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  Finkelstein: Has the WTS put any signs up such as " Arbeit macht frei" which is a German phrase meaning "Work Makes (You) Free".  
  

  No Fink, but the WTBTS repeatedly tells us all to come, "Work for Us for Free!"

  
  
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  GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. watchtower
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  my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

  i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

  we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

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  Jeffro: Or it could just be speculation based on gossip.

  Now we're spreading rumors based on "speculation based on gossip!"

  
  
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  GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

  i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

  we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

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  First, whenever anyone in a leadership position in the organization says the word "soon" you know it's meaningless. They've been saying "soon" for over 100 years.

  As for the rest of the statement, it's so obtuse it could mean anything, (assuming your mom even repeated it accurately).

  That being said, this religion has changed so radically over the last few years that it's already a true statement. JWs are practically mainstream. If they drop the no-blood policy and end shunning they'd be practically indistinguishable from most other religions.

  Let's review: It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  The contempt of Anthony Morris: the face doesn't lie.

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have noticed something even long before even looking into ttatt, something about morris bothered me.

  i am personally very attuned to body language, facial expressions and general subtleties in human interaction.

  there was something about his face that really bothered me, and i will explain it.

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  BTeB: They've reduced themselves to cheap Internet copies of TV evangelists, right down to denouncing gays... just before they get caught at the airport with a rentboy helping them with their luggage.

  I can't wait for that to happen.

  Ol' Tony getting caught with his tight pants down!

  
  

  
  
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  Display of National Flags in Kingdom Halls in Chile: WTS' Response

  by BluesBrother in

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  2. beliefs

  remember this and other threads a few months back, on the subject that some kingdom halls in chile acquiesced to govt rules that every building should display the national flag on the day of celebration?.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/262505/kingdom-hall-chile-has-national-flag?size=20&page=1.

  many of us here and around the net, calling on our dub experiences cried "never would that happen!

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  "... the flag is simply an emblem of the state ..."
  

  It was just a pinch of incense ...

  

  
  

  The cowards that run this religion have completely lost their moral compass. Anyone that follows them is bound for spiritual shipwreck and ruin.

  Grow some balls, exit the Kingdom Hall and live your own life!
  

  Let's review: It's a cult!