Oubliette

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  I got asked THE QUESTION !!

  by Tech49 in

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  a little experience that happened very recently:.

  another brother, an elder, and i were talking, i was explaining to him and giving him several examples of how a couple of the elders in our congregation were blatantly trying to run their own show, parading themselves around as "representatives" of the body, when the other brothers didnt know what the hell they were talking about.

  they are using their "elder powers" to bully and push people around, causing a bit of angst and hurt feelings.

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  Best response ever: "Why do YOU ask? Are YOU having doubts?"
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  Why Armageddon Now?

  by Garrett in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been thinking and here's what i've come up with.

  correct me if i'm wrong, but in the bible does it not state that the word would have to be preached throughout the entire inhabited earth for a witness to all people and then the end would come?.

  with the world being as vast as it is today, it would be practically impossible for the witnesses to speak to everyone in the world.

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  Stop trying to make sense out of nonsense. It will never work.
  
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  Your body of elders - were they liberal, conservative or moderate?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  in my first kingdom hall, the elders were ultra conservative.

  our presiding overseer used to be a zone overseer.

  the second hall i was in was moderate.

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  They were, and still are, Kool-Aid drinkers, every one of them except one: Me.

  I saw the cracks in the facade and eventually left. It was difficult because I did believe it at one time. But when you begin to pull on the loose threads of the WT theology, the whole thing unravels rather quickly.
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  Neanderthal man

  by scary21 in

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  2. friends

  my ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).

  he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.

  i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .

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  scary21: Am I missing something here ?

  Yes, JWs' have no critical thinking skills.

  You canNOT reason with an unreasonable person. You might as well try to teach a pig to ice skate: it annoys the pig and makes you look stupid.
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  Caleb & Sophia video Getting Big Coverage

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wow, i am kind of surprised the amount of attention this appalling video is getting from the media.

  not surprised because it is appalling but that something that i grew up with was encapsulated in a cartoon and is exposing the witnesses publicly for mind control.. www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jehovah-witnesses-video-slammed-threats-kids-article-1.2116873.

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  cappytan: I decided to read Dean Koontz on my tablet instead

  Dean's the bomb! Which book?

  I'm a huge fan of his. Problem is: he can somehow write books faster than I can find enough time to read 'em!
  
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  Semi Home Study Based Charter School vs. Regular School

  by SonoftheTrinity in

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  2. family

  i blame my stepkids bad grades in school squarely on the watchtower.

  they don't get enough sleep because of the demands of family bible study and thursday meetings but comprimise isn't in my wife's vocabulary.

  my stepson has friends at school but there are also bullies, and the classes are overcrowded with sicknesses spreading through them in a way that is detrimental to the family's health.

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  SotT: You've have? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw grammar stones LOL.

  You got me.

  SotT: Sorry for digressing.

  No apologies necessary. That was well said. You clearly have your work cut out for you!

  What does "IRL moral support" mean?
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  Managing a doomsday cult

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wtbts have only one objective: to keep their religious engine on the tracks.

  the pastoral care of their followers (although they would publicly deny it) is right at the bottom of their priorities.they demand abject loyalty.

  as a matter of sociological fact the subscribers to the watchtower belief are on average placed at the lowest rung of the income ladder and in the bottom category of the least educated of religious groups.

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  Steve2: Drop the 1914 doctrine and every other JW teaching comes unstuck.

  It's not as if there is any internal coherence to the JW "theology" as it is.

  1914 is really just a slogan for them, one of their main "go to" pieces of cult propaganda.
  
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  Caleb & Sophia video Getting Big Coverage

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wow, i am kind of surprised the amount of attention this appalling video is getting from the media.

  not surprised because it is appalling but that something that i grew up with was encapsulated in a cartoon and is exposing the witnesses publicly for mind control.. www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jehovah-witnesses-video-slammed-threats-kids-article-1.2116873.

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  Let's review: It's a cult!
  
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  Semi Home Study Based Charter School vs. Regular School

  by SonoftheTrinity in

  1. social
  2. family

  i blame my stepkids bad grades in school squarely on the watchtower.

  they don't get enough sleep because of the demands of family bible study and thursday meetings but comprimise isn't in my wife's vocabulary.

  my stepson has friends at school but there are also bullies, and the classes are overcrowded with sicknesses spreading through them in a way that is detrimental to the family's health.

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  SofT, Sometimes he just needs to sit there and think it through at his own pace ...
  

  Exactly. Your biggest problem right now is how to get your family out of this cult!

  If you can do that, you've have the majority of your problems solved.
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  Managing a doomsday cult

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wtbts have only one objective: to keep their religious engine on the tracks.

  the pastoral care of their followers (although they would publicly deny it) is right at the bottom of their priorities.they demand abject loyalty.

  as a matter of sociological fact the subscribers to the watchtower belief are on average placed at the lowest rung of the income ladder and in the bottom category of the least educated of religious groups.

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  Magnum: I believe that a lot of JWs secretly wonder about and doubt certain JW things, but they're scared to say so. Or maybe they think they're only ones who feel that way - that something is wrong with them for feeling that way - so they keep silent ....

  Dude, you nailed it!

  I know for a long time I thought I was the only one that suspected something was wrong in JW-Land. I would try and drop little hints and innuendos to other JWs, but either they didn't see the same problems or were to terrified to share. That's a very lonely feeling.
  

  It was very encouraging when I was directed to this forum and found out that thousands see the same hypocrisy and lies that I saw.