Posts by Oubliette

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Neanderthal man

by scary21 in

jw
friends

my ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).

he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.

i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .

Oubliette

Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals would have to have been pretty closely related to interbreed. This also shows that the term "species," while useful, also has some inherent difficulties.

The problem is that evolutionary forces weren't reading human taxonomic charts and graphs while they were happening.

I attended a four day National Science Teacher's Association (NSTA) conference this summer. Ken Miller, the author of the popular high school textbook Biology published by Pearson was a guest lecturer.

Among other things, he made the intriguing comment that Aristotle's taxonomy was getting a major reworking in light of many recent discoveries in genetics and paleontology. Although he didn't say when this new taxonomy would be introduced into future textbooks and high school curriculum in the United States, he hinted it would be within the next year or so (I know, that sounds a lot like "Soon!").

For those that are interested, here is a link to his website:

Miller & Levine Biology

There are tons of excellent resources on their website!

Enjoy,

Oubliette

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JUST WONDERIN BOUT THE G.B..... again.

by brandnew in

jw
friends

growing up, i never ever even saw these guys faces, or even knew their names.

all of a sudden they're on my computer screen, tv, and on every other magazine coming out of the watchtower machine.

why all the glamour now?

Oubliette

They're narcissists, everyone one of 'em.

Carly Simon wrote a song that really describes them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQZmCJUSC6g

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I got asked THE QUESTION !!

by Tech49 in

a little experience that happened very recently:.

another brother, an elder, and i were talking, i was explaining to him and giving him several examples of how a couple of the elders in our congregation were blatantly trying to run their own show, parading themselves around as "representatives" of the body, when the other brothers didnt know what the hell they were talking about.

they are using their "elder powers" to bully and push people around, causing a bit of angst and hurt feelings.

Oubliette

Best response ever: "Why do YOU ask? Are YOU having doubts?"

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Why Armageddon Now?

by Garrett in

i've been thinking and here's what i've come up with.

correct me if i'm wrong, but in the bible does it not state that the word would have to be preached throughout the entire inhabited earth for a witness to all people and then the end would come?.

with the world being as vast as it is today, it would be practically impossible for the witnesses to speak to everyone in the world.

Oubliette

Stop trying to make sense out of nonsense. It will never work.

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Your body of elders - were they liberal, conservative or moderate?

by minimus in

jw
friends

in my first kingdom hall, the elders were ultra conservative.

our presiding overseer used to be a zone overseer.

the second hall i was in was moderate.

Oubliette

They were, and still are, Kool-Aid drinkers, every one of them except one: Me.

I saw the cracks in the facade and eventually left. It was difficult because I did believe it at one time. But when you begin to pull on the loose threads of the WT theology, the whole thing unravels rather quickly.

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Neanderthal man

by scary21 in

jw
friends

my ex husband and father of my daughter was never baptized but is still a believer in the wt.. a couple years ago we were talking about evolution ( which he does not believe in ) i brought up the subject of the neanderthals and how we all have their dna except africans ( the ones that never left africa ).

he said neanderthals are apes and not humans and jw's do not teach that they are humans.

i said i believe they do.. in the life- how did it get here book, under the sub heading " the human family "is says " neanderthal man....... was undoubtedly human.. his response was " they are just talking about what other people believe " ahhhhh .

Oubliette

scary21: Am I missing something here ?

Yes, JWs' have no critical thinking skills.

You canNOT reason with an unreasonable person. You might as well try to teach a pig to ice skate: it annoys the pig and makes you look stupid.

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Caleb & Sophia video Getting Big Coverage

by freemindfade in

wow, i am kind of surprised the amount of attention this appalling video is getting from the media.

not surprised because it is appalling but that something that i grew up with was encapsulated in a cartoon and is exposing the witnesses publicly for mind control.. www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jehovah-witnesses-video-slammed-threats-kids-article-1.2116873.

Oubliette

cappytan: I decided to read Dean Koontz on my tablet instead

Dean's the bomb! Which book?

I'm a huge fan of his. Problem is: he can somehow write books faster than I can find enough time to read 'em!

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Semi Home Study Based Charter School vs. Regular School

by SonoftheTrinity in

i blame my stepkids bad grades in school squarely on the watchtower.

they don't get enough sleep because of the demands of family bible study and thursday meetings but comprimise isn't in my wife's vocabulary.

my stepson has friends at school but there are also bullies, and the classes are overcrowded with sicknesses spreading through them in a way that is detrimental to the family's health.

Oubliette

SotT: You've have? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw grammar stones LOL.

You got me.

SotT: Sorry for digressing.

No apologies necessary. That was well said. You clearly have your work cut out for you!

What does "IRL moral support" mean?

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Managing a doomsday cult

by Half banana in

the wtbts have only one objective: to keep their religious engine on the tracks.

the pastoral care of their followers (although they would publicly deny it) is right at the bottom of their priorities.they demand abject loyalty.

as a matter of sociological fact the subscribers to the watchtower belief are on average placed at the lowest rung of the income ladder and in the bottom category of the least educated of religious groups.

Oubliette

Steve2: Drop the 1914 doctrine and every other JW teaching comes unstuck.

It's not as if there is any internal coherence to the JW "theology" as it is.

1914 is really just a slogan for them, one of their main "go to" pieces of cult propaganda.

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Caleb & Sophia video Getting Big Coverage

by freemindfade in

wow, i am kind of surprised the amount of attention this appalling video is getting from the media.

not surprised because it is appalling but that something that i grew up with was encapsulated in a cartoon and is exposing the witnesses publicly for mind control.. www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jehovah-witnesses-video-slammed-threats-kids-article-1.2116873.

Oubliette

Let's review: It's a cult!