"..the governing body watches the moon."
How astute of them. That makes sense because they're all lunatics!
perhaps i'm just getting older and crankier, but it really seems to me that the jw faith is deteriorating at an accelerated rate.. case in point: this year's memorial talk.
it was one of the most incoherent messes i've ever heard.
(and i've heard a lot of memorial talks over the last 50 years....).
"..the governing body watches the moon."
How astute of them. That makes sense because they're all lunatics!
"there are only three reasons you should miss a meeting.
fever, fracture or funeral.
everything else is a sorry excuse.
sir82: s there anything more pointless and stupid than chastising congregation members for not attending meetings...at the lowest-attended meeting of all?
It's not as pointless as you might think. It serves to affirm in the minds of those in attendance that they are the obedient ones and they are the ones pleasing to Jehovah.
It also makes them more self-righteous and less compassionate.
after years of leaked info, the gb has finally decided to publish their own shepherding textbook in epub format.. dear brothers:.
we are pleased to inform you that the shepherding textbook is now available in epub,.
mobi, and pdf format.
tim3l0rd: Now everything that is translated to ASL is in video format. KMs are now all signed video. Even the talk outlines are now signed videos that can be downloaded. I imagine they will sign the entire flock manual as well.
That was the question I raised a few pages back. I really cannot imagine them doing the entire elders' manual in ASL videos. But just because I can't imagine it doesn't mean they won't.
The idiots running this religion never cease to amaze and amuse me with their stupid ideas. They seem to have an inexhaustible supply of dumb ideas.
"there are only three reasons you should miss a meeting.
fever, fracture or funeral.
everything else is a sorry excuse.
I don't need "excuses," I have reasons, many of them in fact, to not go to the Kingdom Hall.
But here's the most important one: It's a cult!
we all know the wts abandons and invents beliefs faster than apple can churn out new shiny stuff.
but have they ever abandoned a belief and later picked it up again?.
i remember many years ago we had one of those post-district-assembly review parts (part of the service meeting) where they were discussing some "new light".. there was some confusion about which was the "new" and which was the "old" and a semi-discussion ensued with people commenting.
I hear the GB are thinking of reintroducing Russell's teachings on the pyramids: '
had an interesting thought this morning.
when a witness is 'in' they think everyone else is following and trying there best all in unity.
i believe the reality is there are a lot of us 'in' who know different.
FMF, this is a powerful epiphany you've just had.
As Morpheus said, we all at first think we're the only one that doesn't believe. It is different though for those of us that leave. We are courageous, even if it's painful to lose family and friends.
Ultimately, the most important relationship we have in this life is the one we have with our self. - Attribution redacted.
i do believe it is written somewhere in jw literature .
Great responses WF!
from so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.
i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.
to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.
confuzzlediam: I was in my 40s when I returned to school. I already had an AA. I went to a local community college to pick up some missing transfer credits, then I went to university to get my BA.
I'm now finishing up my Master's.
It's empowering!
The experiences of others on this forum have been encouraging. I hope to be an example to others as well!
have you noticed how everything from the gb or witnesses in general is "self referential"?.
by this i mean that they adopt the method of using their own quotes, facts, statistics, teachings, events etc....to "prove" the new points made!.
so for example, a teaching point or doctrinal reference is brought out, and in order to "prove" it, the gb will use their own self referential past points to back it up!.
Yes, I noticed that many years ago. Nearly every teaching is "backed up" by quoting another WT publication. This gives the illusion of scholarship. But that's all it is.
When I first began to notice this, I thought, "Well, I'll have to read that article to see what IT used for evidence/proof/etc."
Of course, I often didn't, but many times I did. It wasn't long before I started to see a pattern, there is a dearth of independent material to verify almost all JW doctrines and practices. The are mostly derived in-house and simply asserted without any independently verifiable backing.
Look at the relatively recent "overlapping generation" nonsense. The "proof" is the use of the word "evidently" in the sentence introducing the teaching, asserting that the WT writers--and they alone--KNOW what Jesus meant when he prophesied:
"He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation." Watchtower 2010 April 15 p.10
That's it. No REAL evidence.
Let's review: It's a cult!
from so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.
i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.
to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.