There's that "soon" word again!
Don't they know they've been saying it for over a hundred years!
Oubliette
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Double-Speak - Never Noticed it Like This at the Time
by berrygerry inblondie posted in another thread the july 15, 2011 extra-simple wt.. paragraph 12 has an amazing double-speak therein..
this idea makes people think only about today.
they do not care about the future or about pleasing god.
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How the human mind processes facts and faith differently
by EdenOne ini found this very interesting article by t. m. luhrmann in todays edition of the new york times (i've highlighted a few parts i 've found most interesting):.
it seems weird to deny them.. and yet a broad group of scholars is beginning to demonstrate that religious belief and factual belief are indeed different kinds of mental creatures.
people process evidence differently when they think with a factual mind-set rather than with a religious mind-set.
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Oubliette
This is supposed to be a place for support of ex and current JW's who don't believe this organization has anything to do with God.
Eden, I get your point ... kinda/sorta.
But here's the problem: you are expecting all threads to be treated equally.
If I may, I will use Viviane and Cofty as examples. They can be brutal on threads like this. But that's the point, its on THREADS LIKE THIS!!!
I've read both of them offer some of the kindest, most compassionate words of comfort and encouragement on threads where someone (usually, but not always, a newbie) is expressing their pain and anger at realizing they've been duped by a cult and often suffer being cut off by family members.
Those threads are different.
Think about it.
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How the human mind processes facts and faith differently
by EdenOne ini found this very interesting article by t. m. luhrmann in todays edition of the new york times (i've highlighted a few parts i 've found most interesting):.
it seems weird to deny them.. and yet a broad group of scholars is beginning to demonstrate that religious belief and factual belief are indeed different kinds of mental creatures.
people process evidence differently when they think with a factual mind-set rather than with a religious mind-set.
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Cofty: Why is it remarkable that our brains process input from our 5 senses differently from delusions that originated in our heads?
Interesting question!
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Apostasy Trial - Part 2 - Accusation Against Elder Needs 3 Witnesses
by berrygerry indespite being in for decades, i have never heard this before.. can any elders confirm this, and the reasoning?.
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Oubliette
Searcher, that's a good point. They may try to pull that, but it still says a minimum of two.
The whole rule is ridiculous anyway.
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Interesting point about elders appointment by holy spirit (apostacy case)
by joe134cd ini was just listening to a jc for apostasy on jwstruggle.
the issue was raised if elders are appointed by holy spirit, then why is there such an issue with sex abuse.
the answer was given (and i thought it was quite true) well jesus was the son of god and he appointed judas under holy spirit, just to have him turn on him.
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Oubliette
joe134cd: what would be your answer to that.
So, if appointments made by Holy Spirit are indistinguishable from those that are not, then what's the point?
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How the human mind processes facts and faith differently
by EdenOne ini found this very interesting article by t. m. luhrmann in todays edition of the new york times (i've highlighted a few parts i 've found most interesting):.
it seems weird to deny them.. and yet a broad group of scholars is beginning to demonstrate that religious belief and factual belief are indeed different kinds of mental creatures.
people process evidence differently when they think with a factual mind-set rather than with a religious mind-set.
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Oubliette
EdenOne: the point of debate of this thread isn't about the claim that supernatural thinking increases with age ... but about the different thought processes that the human brain probably uses to process statements of fact and statements of faith. - Emphasis added
Maybe that's the problem.
You Cut & Pasted 10 paragraphs of the article but merely said you found it "interesting" and that you'd like to see an experiment that scans the brain while the person is making a factual statement versus a faith-based statement.
We're not mind readers you know!
You should read this thread: A Request to All Posters Regarding Cut & Paste Posting of "Interesting Articles"
Although you did include some commentary, you didn't include enough for us to know the point you were trying to make. We had to wait two days as many pages and 30+ posts before you explicitly stated "the point of the ... thread."
The points you highlighted certainly didn't make your particular point clear.
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Apostasy Trial - Part 2 - Accusation Against Elder Needs 3 Witnesses
by berrygerry indespite being in for decades, i have never heard this before.. can any elders confirm this, and the reasoning?.
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Oubliette
That's bullshit.
I was an elder for 20 years.
If the particular elder has a lot of influence you've got an uphill battle, but there's no "Three Witness Rule" for them.
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How the human mind processes facts and faith differently
by EdenOne ini found this very interesting article by t. m. luhrmann in todays edition of the new york times (i've highlighted a few parts i 've found most interesting):.
it seems weird to deny them.. and yet a broad group of scholars is beginning to demonstrate that religious belief and factual belief are indeed different kinds of mental creatures.
people process evidence differently when they think with a factual mind-set rather than with a religious mind-set.
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Oubliette
Eden, the burden of proof is always on the person that made the initial assertion. I didn't do that.
But thanks for the link. Kind of expensive for a 20-ish page paper, but It looks interesting.
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How to Choose a Wife!
by snugglebunny inback in the day, when my family moved to a new congregation, i fell head over heels with a young sister who was an elder's daughter.
it wasn't long before we were talking about marriage and i was contemplating buying her an engagement ring.
my parents were not happy at all.
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Disowning the God of the OT is not an Option
by cofty init's to their credit that many modern christians prefer the jesus of the gospels to the god of the old testament.. ot god is an embarrassment.
i am not going to list his multitude of moral crimes here but my personal favourite is his brilliant idea that a girl who is raped must marry her rapist.
it's not his biggest crime but it demonstrates a disregard for human feelings that is beyond the comprehension of every moral person.
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Oubliette
HMTM: To be unable to see the unseen does not itself prove that the unseen is a delusion.
That's true enough.
But there's certainly enough other evidence to prove that believing the majority of what is in the Bible is to believe in a delusion.
de·lu·sion
dəˈlo͞oZHən/
noun: delusion; plural noun: delusionsan idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.