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  The Devouring Mother Archetype(jungian) And the Watchtower Corporation's Self Identification As Mother And Jehovah As Father

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the devouring mother must be always listen to and obeyed it is the negative side of the anima image and it rules over the watchtower corporation.

  jehovah(corporation's imaginary sock puppet) is the father figure with his masculine macho swagger he gains victory over every detractor and his huge narcissistic personality demands exclusive devotion from everyone or it's the death penalty, he suffers from an inflated ego and has a very dark and evil shadow due to denial of his dark nature/satan(scape goat).

  the children or rank and file pee on dedicated members of the corporation must now engage in worthless pursuits to satisfy a mood swinging domineering mother and a murderous self righteous father all the while being shown a very contemptible form of conditional love, accompanied with constant death threat reminders and a carrot on a sting to keep them focused on such and busy with worthless pursuits for a hopeless cause.

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  From Wikipedia:

  Carl Jung: Alchemy
  

  The work and writings of Jung from the 1940s onwards focused on alchemy.

  In 1944 Jung published Psychology and Alchemy, where he analyzed the alchemical symbols and showed a direct relationship to the psychoanalytical process. He argued that the alchemical process was the transformation of the impure soul (lead) to perfected soul (gold), and a metaphor for the individuation process.

  In 1963 Mysterium Coniunctionis first appeared in English as part of in The Collected Works of C. G. Jung. Mysterium Coniunctionis was Jung's last book and focused on the "Mysterium Coniunctionis" archetype, known as the sacred marriage between sun and moon. Jung argued that the stages of the alchemists, the blackening, the whitening, the reddening and the yellowing, could be taken as symbolic of individuation — his favourite term for personal growth.

  Carl Jung: Legacy
  

  Jung saw the human psyche as "by nature religious" and made this religiousness the focus of his explorations. Jung is one of the best known contemporary contributors to dream analysis and symbolization. His influence on popular psychology, the "psychologization of religion", spirituality and the New Age movement has been immense. - Emphasis added
  
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  The Devouring Mother Archetype(jungian) And the Watchtower Corporation's Self Identification As Mother And Jehovah As Father

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the devouring mother must be always listen to and obeyed it is the negative side of the anima image and it rules over the watchtower corporation.

  jehovah(corporation's imaginary sock puppet) is the father figure with his masculine macho swagger he gains victory over every detractor and his huge narcissistic personality demands exclusive devotion from everyone or it's the death penalty, he suffers from an inflated ego and has a very dark and evil shadow due to denial of his dark nature/satan(scape goat).

  the children or rank and file pee on dedicated members of the corporation must now engage in worthless pursuits to satisfy a mood swinging domineering mother and a murderous self righteous father all the while being shown a very contemptible form of conditional love, accompanied with constant death threat reminders and a carrot on a sting to keep them focused on such and busy with worthless pursuits for a hopeless cause.

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  BW, Jungian psychology is still practiced today ... just type in Jungian analyst with your zip code and you will find it is still use in psychoanalysis.

  I tried what you said and was surprised. There are indeed several individuals in my general area promoting themselves as Certified Jungian Analysts.

  I sit corrected.
  

  But this does not of course mean it's scientifically valid.

  BTW, there are also dozens of Kingdom Halls in my area, hundreds of churches, countless psychics, numerous shamans and "healers" of various traditions and backgrounds.
  

  It would be a mistake to replace one set of myths with another.
  
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  The Devouring Mother Archetype(jungian) And the Watchtower Corporation's Self Identification As Mother And Jehovah As Father

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the devouring mother must be always listen to and obeyed it is the negative side of the anima image and it rules over the watchtower corporation.

  jehovah(corporation's imaginary sock puppet) is the father figure with his masculine macho swagger he gains victory over every detractor and his huge narcissistic personality demands exclusive devotion from everyone or it's the death penalty, he suffers from an inflated ego and has a very dark and evil shadow due to denial of his dark nature/satan(scape goat).

  the children or rank and file pee on dedicated members of the corporation must now engage in worthless pursuits to satisfy a mood swinging domineering mother and a murderous self righteous father all the while being shown a very contemptible form of conditional love, accompanied with constant death threat reminders and a carrot on a sting to keep them focused on such and busy with worthless pursuits for a hopeless cause.

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  X, I not only read your entire post but I read the entire article you cited from Saul Mcleod. It's weird that you read my reply but didn't realise this.

  I do realize you read McLeod's article, that's why I think it's strange you wrote what you did.

  But now that we've descended into talking about talking (or "writing about writing" as the case may be) and not about any actual content, I'll leave you all to your Jungian myths and bow out with a friendly ...

  
  
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  The Devouring Mother Archetype(jungian) And the Watchtower Corporation's Self Identification As Mother And Jehovah As Father

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the devouring mother must be always listen to and obeyed it is the negative side of the anima image and it rules over the watchtower corporation.

  jehovah(corporation's imaginary sock puppet) is the father figure with his masculine macho swagger he gains victory over every detractor and his huge narcissistic personality demands exclusive devotion from everyone or it's the death penalty, he suffers from an inflated ego and has a very dark and evil shadow due to denial of his dark nature/satan(scape goat).

  the children or rank and file pee on dedicated members of the corporation must now engage in worthless pursuits to satisfy a mood swinging domineering mother and a murderous self righteous father all the while being shown a very contemptible form of conditional love, accompanied with constant death threat reminders and a carrot on a sting to keep them focused on such and busy with worthless pursuits for a hopeless cause.

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  BW and Xanthippe, it's more than a little weird that you only seemed to read the portion of my post with which you disagree.

  I also wrote, "Jung’s work has made some contributions to mainstream psychology."

  Making "contributions to" and having "ideas which were important to the development of" does not a coherent, cohesive and comprehensive theory make.
  

  I am aware of and fully understand those valid ideas of Jung's. I'm equally aware of those that have been largely discredited as "pseudo-philosophy" and "New Age mystical speculation."

  It is those ideas of the archetype which BW has been espousing and which are non-scientific in nature.
  
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  Very Offensive Statement Directed To JW Parents-Watchtower 4/15/2015 Page 11 Paragraph 9

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wt is insinuating, worse yet, blaming senior jw parents for there not being more younger brothers reaching out to be ministerial servants and elders.

  page 11 paragraph 9 reads as follows: .

  "elders in affluent lands may face an added challenge: how to motivate baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to get involved in congregation activities.

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  Splash, thanks for the research which shows the WTBTS cannot decide whether they "need" more spiritual men or have "an abundance."

  They seem pretty indecisive.
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  The Devouring Mother Archetype(jungian) And the Watchtower Corporation's Self Identification As Mother And Jehovah As Father

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the devouring mother must be always listen to and obeyed it is the negative side of the anima image and it rules over the watchtower corporation.

  jehovah(corporation's imaginary sock puppet) is the father figure with his masculine macho swagger he gains victory over every detractor and his huge narcissistic personality demands exclusive devotion from everyone or it's the death penalty, he suffers from an inflated ego and has a very dark and evil shadow due to denial of his dark nature/satan(scape goat).

  the children or rank and file pee on dedicated members of the corporation must now engage in worthless pursuits to satisfy a mood swinging domineering mother and a murderous self righteous father all the while being shown a very contemptible form of conditional love, accompanied with constant death threat reminders and a carrot on a sting to keep them focused on such and busy with worthless pursuits for a hopeless cause.

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  BrokebackWatchtower, I don't know if you saw my reply to your reference to Jung on another thread (you didn't respond), so I'll repeat it here:

  Although, Jung’s work has made some contributions to mainstream psychology, generally modern psychologists do not employ his ideas into their theories of personality and mind. In particular, they do not give much credence to his theory of archetypes.
  
  Ernest Jones (Freud’s biographer) wrote that Jung “descended into a pseudo-philosophy out of which he never emerged” and to many his ideas look more like New Age mystical speculation than a scientific contribution to psychology.
  
  You might find this article written by Saul McLeod informative:
  

  Simply Psychology: Carl Jung

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  Similar things can be said about Freud
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  Very Offensive Statement Directed To JW Parents-Watchtower 4/15/2015 Page 11 Paragraph 9

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wt is insinuating, worse yet, blaming senior jw parents for there not being more younger brothers reaching out to be ministerial servants and elders.

  page 11 paragraph 9 reads as follows: .

  "elders in affluent lands may face an added challenge: how to motivate baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to get involved in congregation activities.

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  Good catch Searcher!

  So in 2013 there was "an abundance" of spiritual shepherds, but now there's not?!?

  What happened?
  
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  A Hummingbird in My House

  by Oubliette in

  1. social
  2. current

  we just had a hummingbird in our house!

  it flew in through an open door.

  i had been cleaning my back patio and left the screen open for a few moments when i was putting stuff away.

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  We just had a hummingbird in our house! It flew in through an open door. I had been cleaning my back patio and left the screen open for a few moments when I was putting stuff away.
  
  The hummer flew upstairs and into our bedroom. After I discovered where it was, I closed the doors to all the other rooms and tried to shoo it out with a broom. Trying to "herd" a hummer is worse than trying to "herd" cats or teenagers!
  
  I finally had to wait for it to get so tired it passed out grasping a screen on a window. I thought it was dead. It's tiny little claws were still clinging to the screen. Gently as possible, I pried them loose from the screen.
  
  I picked it up, cupping it in both hands, and took it outside. Although it was still warm, it didn't move at all in my hands. But when I opened my hands it flew away!!!

  It was quite an experience to hold a hummingbird in my hands, if even for only a few seconds.
  
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  We are slowly moving away from that kind of preaching work

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  john hoyle--jws go knocking on strangers doors and try to get inside homes to preach.. wt rep--we are slowly moving away from that kind of preaching work, we do more preaching by using literature carts and personal telephone calls.. .

  the above quote is from john hoyle's website:http://insidethewatchtower.com/doctrine/phone-calls-to-bethel-jw-org-email-and-contacts/.

  it's interesting, isn't it?

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  Cart to cart we go, preaching of the Kingdom!
  
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  "Knock, Knock" --- My Poem

  by The Governor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is saturday morning and you hear a ring at the door bell, two men greet you looking quite swell.

  they say good morning and open up their publications and start reading without any hesitation.

  they tell you the world is getting worse, with death and human suffering you think the world must be cursed!

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  Um, just because phrases and sentences end with words that rhyme doesn't meant it's poetry.

  Try working on your meter and rhythm.

  Also, great poetry comes from great subjects. As fun as it is, ridiculing JWs is not a great subject.
  

  I suggest you get a collection of great poetry and read it out loud.

  I recommend this to get you started:
  

  The Norton Anthology of Poetry