Posts by Oubliette

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REQUEST: Video Links for this year's RC Dramas

by Oubliette in

does anyone have the links for this year's rc videos?

i'm especially interested in the video drama about the jw woman that married an upbaptized man.

i have a couple of friends in similar situations--wife in, they're not--and the wives still attend.

REQUEST: Video Links for this year's RC Dramas

by Oubliette in

does anyone have the links for this year's rc videos?

i'm especially interested in the video drama about the jw woman that married an upbaptized man.

i have a couple of friends in similar situations--wife in, they're not--and the wives still attend.

Oubliette

Hi all,

Does anyone have the links for this year's RC Videos? I'm especially interested in the video drama about the JW woman that married an upbaptized man.

I have a couple of friends in similar situations--wife in, they're not--and the wives still attend. They want to know what their wives will be getting indoctrinated with at the RC. Think of it as "Theocratic Warfare" in reverse.

I know someone posted these from a recent RC in New York, but I can't seem to find them using the SEARCH tools on this forum.

Thanks in advance,

Oubliette

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Caleb's Logic - Do the math

by Esse quam videri in

the scene is the kitchen table where we find calebs dad and mom in conversation.

dad - a letter?

mom so we are going to write a letter to everyone we know and ask them to give us some of their money, so that we have as much money coming in as is going out.

Oubliette

Luke 14:28 baby: For example, who of you wanting to build a tower does not first sit down and calculate the expense to see if he has enough to complete it?

The GB apparently, that's who!

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Disfellowshipped at 18

by asensier in

you can probably guess how this story goes.. i began dating a non-witness boy.

he knew i was a baptised witness and understood the consequences i faced for dating him.

we agreed to keep our relationship secret, which was easy considering our 200 mile distance.

Oubliette

asensier: I later wrote a letter to them explaining that the only ones causing hurt were them as I'm here ready for communication. It was painful to write but I felt I had to make them try to understand that they are choosing the religion over the love for their child.

Good for you. That was an important step in redefining your relationship with yourself and your parents.

Don't be surprised if it has little discernible affect right away. But communicating that message is the only way you can both be yourself and have any hope of a mature, real relationship with your parents.

Now it's up to them.

Oubliette

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Replicating the Kadesh incident in the 21st century.

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

watchtower study magazine of march 15th 2015study title: "loyally supporting christs brothers"paragraph 17. .

"the growing number of prospective sheep count it a privilege to support christs brothers not only in the preaching work but also in other practical ways.

for example, they give financial contributions and help to build kingdom halls, assembly halls, and branch facilities, and they loyally obey those appointed by the faithful and discreet slave to take the lead.matt.

Oubliette

Their lapse is enduring rather than momentary and which lapse they do not acknowledge nor seek to correct in any way.

Yep, It's a cult!

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JW Org Flags at R.C.

by ToesUp in

photo was posted on jw-archive.

j.w.org flags flying at the 2015 r.c.

in fribourg, switzerland..

Oubliette

Looking more and more like every other religion!

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Disfellowshipped at 18

by asensier in

you can probably guess how this story goes.. i began dating a non-witness boy.

he knew i was a baptised witness and understood the consequences i faced for dating him.

we agreed to keep our relationship secret, which was easy considering our 200 mile distance.

Oubliette

BerryGerry, the sentiment on that embroidery is right on!

The sad thing is a lot of JWs would see it as a compliment not a condemnation.

Let's review: It's a cult!

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Faith v Fact - New Book by Jerry Coyne

by cofty in

jerry coyne has been in the news with the release of a new book "faith v fact".. you can read a review from the independent here.... "he argues that there is a direct and unavoidable conflict between faith and science.

both make truth claims about the universe.

but only science has the means to test, refute or refine its claims.

Oubliette

Cofty, thanks for sharing.

Some other important distinctions between science and religion (aka "faith") is that scientific knowledge is discovered and subject to peer review whereas religious beliefs are "revealed," usually only to a select individual or group and is most definitely NOT open for discussion or debate.

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Disfellowshipped at 18

by asensier in

you can probably guess how this story goes.. i began dating a non-witness boy.

he knew i was a baptised witness and understood the consequences i faced for dating him.

we agreed to keep our relationship secret, which was easy considering our 200 mile distance.

Oubliette

asensier, welcome. I'm sorry for your plight. Sadly, it's a very common one: a person just wants to be themselves, living their own life, but due to the Witness beliefs they are cast aside, shunned and abandoned.

What I'm struggling with is how I'm being disfellowshipped as 'an act of love.'

I understand your struggle and the emotions you are going through. Although the details of my story are different than your, the end result was the same: all of my JW friends and family cut me off, every single one. There are a great many here that have suffered as you are now.

Know this: Disfellowshipping is NOT an act of love. It just isn't.

It is an act of emotional violence committed with the intent to control. Primarily, it is to meant instill fear in the hearts and minds of those that remain in the congregation and by so doing control them. It also has the secondary motive of possibly breaking your spirit and forcing you to return to your abusers (the congregation) humiliated, docile and easy to control.

I feel completely abandoned. My boyfriend, despite his misconceptions about the religion, has been the only person to give me full support.

I do know how you feel. When I was disfellowshipped six years ago I too felt abandoned. Fortunately, you have not been completely abandoned. Your boyfriend is still with you and loves you.

You are very young and your relationship with him may or may not last, but he is with you now. Draw on his love and support to become your own person.

What you will have to do over the next weeks, months and years is hard to do, very hard. You will go through a process very much like grieving. It hurts like hell, but in the end you will be a stronger person for it. It does get better though.

Welcome to the rest of your life.

Oubliette

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Education Level of GB

by The_Doctor10 in

after seeing so many topics about the stupidity of the gb, just got me wondering, anyone know the secular education levels of the gb?

are they high school level religious zealots or are they college educated manipulators?

Oubliette

Data-dog: I believe that many of them would actually be considered mentally ill, if they were ever tested.

They believe things that are demonstrably untrue and/or in clear contradiction with reality. This is the definition of a delusion, which is typically a symptom of mental disorder.

They think Satan and "this system of things" is out to get them, thereby exhibiting signs of paranoia.

Although they can appear superficially normal and even charming at times, they are nonetheless completely lacking in normal human compassion and empathy; apparently have no consciences as evidenced by their ongoing, utter failure to admit to ever being wrong about anything nor ever showing any guilt or remorse; they show total disregard for the untold pain and suffering they have caused to countless millions of people; are routinely and oft times brutally calculating and manipulative of their followers seeking their own selfish gain and desires, all the while simultaneously believing they are special and deserve more and better things than everyone around them. These traits are the classic characteristics of a life-long psychopath.

So there you have it: the Governing Body members are paranoid, delusional psychopaths and they are the leaders of a well-established religion with substantial numbers of followers Earthwide.

The implications of this are obviously very serious. Anyone that tries to imitate them will inevitably end up mimicking these same antisocial personality disorders. Sound like anyone you know? You maybe?

Induced delusional disorder (or shared paranoid disorder), also known as folie à deux, is a fairly uncommon disturbance characterized by the presence of similar psychotic symptoms in two or more individuals.

According to Phillip W. Long, MD, the dominant person (in this case: the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses) in the relationship has a delusional disorder and convinces the nondominant person (the Rank & File Witnesses) to adopt his delusional beliefs. Needless to say, that's pretty messed up.

The bad news is that induced paranoia and delusions are very resistant to treatment. And of course a person can't even begin to get help unless they admit there's a problem.

There is some potential good news however: the nondominant person can usually overcome the delusions and regain their mental health once separated from the psychotic dominant person or in this case the Jehovah's Witness religion and the influence of its leadership.

Let's review: It's a cult!

BTW, there is no meaningful correlation between mental illness and education or the lack thereof.

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