Oubliette

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  CO Comes Up With A New Way To Be Judgemental...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  at the latest co visit something very strange happened.

  during the meeting with the elders and servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it.

  upon receiving it i saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies.

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  LTPF: Like John Aquila would say, 'let's review, it's a cult!'

  Ummmm, that's not his tag line!
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  The writing department

  by tornapart in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i don't go to many meetings now.

  i still feel the need to go every now and again for my husband's sake.

  i usually go on a sunday, maybe once a month or so and i look at the wt article under discussion to see if i can stomach it before i go, a lot of the time i feel i just can't do it.

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  TA, I don't worry about you, but I do feel for you. It's painful to listen to all that drivel in the WT.

  Again, what SparrowDown said!
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  On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

  i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

  it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

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  STA, thank you for your sincere and thoughtful post.

  I've been thinking about this myself.

  It seems that many here feel that you can't disagree without it becoming a personal issue. I have enjoyed many excellent discussions on this forum where people are free to express their differing viewpoints with respect and are respected in return.

  I have also experienced the exact opposite. Unfortunately there are quite a few members of this forum that respond to any questioning, disagreement or criticism of WHAT they post with PERSONAL attacks of the person that dared express a differing point of view. Just the other day I was blasted by one poster simply because I found his OP unclear and I asked for clarification.

  Some of the attacks I've seen here are quite vicious in nature. I can't help but make the comparison to the kind of toxic, unhealthy, abusive relationships that I deliberately left behind when I severed ties with certain family members (not JWs) and also left this religion.

  We don't need that here!

  Great OP. Thanks for starting this thread,

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  The writing department

  by tornapart in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i don't go to many meetings now.

  i still feel the need to go every now and again for my husband's sake.

  i usually go on a sunday, maybe once a month or so and i look at the wt article under discussion to see if i can stomach it before i go, a lot of the time i feel i just can't do it.

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  What SparrowDown said!
  
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  Disfellowshipped at a funeral

  by Yogapants in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently at a funeral for an active jw, death was sudden and tragic.

  was surprised that that one of the disfellowshipped children of the deceased was comforted by the jw's at the funeral.

  i would say the majority hugged and said a few short words to the disfellowshipped child on the recieving line to comfort the family.

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  When my father-in-law died, three of his disfellowshipped adult children came to the funeral. There was quite a lot of hugging and crying by the active JWs.

  The disfellowshipped ones came over to the house later for association (ironic, no), food and drinks. They hung out for several hours.

  That was more than a decade ago. As far as I know, none of the active JWs have made any attempt to reconnect with their brothers and sister since. None.

  Let's review: It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  oh dear....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bhhs5lhr00.

  words.....just cant find the words......

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  Magnum: Heck, he probably doesn't even have a good grasp of what JWs believe.

  Young man, I'll listen to what you have to say IF you can clearly explain to me the "overlapping generation" teaching using only the Bible and a standard dictionary!
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  2015 Jehovah's Witnesses Annual Meeting Lett warning about apostates CLIP

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja4z2-sf4ky.

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  Every verse he quoted applies to the leaders of the WTBTS.

  The irony is palpable.
  
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  New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

  7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

  for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

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  I thought they were toning down their rhetoric.

  Nope. Think again.
  
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  Give me 5 minutes to explain...

  by pixel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i keep thinking about the time i will "come out" and tell my wife about this sick cult.

  i don't know when that day will come, but knowing me i will seat down with her and ask her for 5 minutes to explain to her why we as a family has to get out.

  my question is: what will you tell somebody in 5 minutes, that will convince that perdon that this is not a good religion to follow and that we have been deceived?.

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  I tried that 13 years ago. That woman is now my ex-wife and still brainwashed by the cult.

  Good luck, you'll need it!
  
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  Dissenters in Watchtower History: Differing Departures

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm reading an excellent book about defectors from the mormon church called differing visions: dissenters in mormon history.

  through a collection of essays from many academic authors it looks at the life stories of dissenters and reasons for departure, as well as analysing the impact of their dissent on the church itself.

  fascinating stuff and makes me wish there was a similar volume looking at the key dissenters from jws/watchtower and the impact they had.

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  Another name to ponder perhaps is musician Frank Kavelin

  Frank didn't help me leave, but he and his wife Barbara have been a huge help and support after I left, especially in those first few months when I was so emotionally fragile.

  But Frank is not an outspoken dissenter. He is just a regular guy trying to live the rest of his life as normally as possible after spending the majority of it in a high-control, authoritarian cult.