thank you gopher its people like u who help me to cope
huggsss
nelly
i just went to the supermarket and came face to face with an elders wife coming out of the store,.
i was polite and said hello as im just a fader as they refer to it on this board, but im not kidding youd think she had just met hitler.... that is how she reacted to me, i left those meetings cuz of how they treated me and the lies hypocrisy lack of love on and on but being reacted to like that hurts and makes me so angry.... how the heck do you deal with it, it really affects me so much..... its realy hurtful oh well i need to realise shes not important in my life so what she thinks dont matter squatt.
hard tho isnt it?.
thank you gopher its people like u who help me to cope
huggsss
nelly
i just went to the supermarket and came face to face with an elders wife coming out of the store,.
i was polite and said hello as im just a fader as they refer to it on this board, but im not kidding youd think she had just met hitler.... that is how she reacted to me, i left those meetings cuz of how they treated me and the lies hypocrisy lack of love on and on but being reacted to like that hurts and makes me so angry.... how the heck do you deal with it, it really affects me so much..... its realy hurtful oh well i need to realise shes not important in my life so what she thinks dont matter squatt.
hard tho isnt it?.
i just went to the supermarket and came face to face with an elders wife coming out of the store,
i was polite and said hello as im just a fader as they refer to it on this board, but Im not kidding youd think she had just met hitler... she gave me the oh my god not her look and looked at me like i was a pile of dog shit!!!! smelly dog shit at that.
that is how she reacted to me, i left those meetings cuz of how they treated me and the lies hypocrisy lack of love on and on but being reacted to like that hurts and makes me so angry...
how the heck do you deal with it, it really affects me so much....
its realy hurtful oh well i need to realise shes not important in my life so what she thinks dont matter squatt. hard tho isnt it?
for those who just up and left the wts, what was the one thing, if any, that made you think to yourself, allright, that is it, i am outa here!
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i relate to every single one of you, i noticed that the more hours you did the more attention you got, if u got studies you got attention,if u placed alot of magazines you got attention, if you were related to an elder,CO.DO,someone at bethel. a pioneer, you got attention.
if you were a sole parent or a poor person, or had something wrong with you, you were ignored, and as far as service in the western world well it was like going around the walls of jerhico, big time, and it got to the stage where I was soooo sick of not at homes, telephone witnessing i loved that but everyone else hated it to it was never done, bunches of excuses were made.
and yes the lack of love that is soo evident, i know maybe 2 witnesses now that are still in who were very loving to me. but the rest bleh, out for themselves and that is all.
one is a farmer filthy rich wouldnt help a dying dog on the road makes me sick.
and yes the hypocrisy, never mind about what is good for the goose is good for the gander,it doesnt happen.
to be honest i felt like feild service with endless not at homes was like a waste of gas a waste of my time and a waste of jehovahs time... simple as that. and not many people wanted to listen they are sick of us knocking on the door and to be perfectly frank I used to force myself to go out. i got so sick of it.
and yes that peodophile thing is dispicable, imagine what jehovah must be thinking and saying. doesnt bare thinking abt.
and there will be alot of millstones when hes ready to use them all, a big clean out or judgement day is coming, and the WT needs to look and see if it itself is not part of babylon the great. food for thought.
love to all
nelly
everywhere i go at the moment, ...it's christmas!.
constant "reminders" - the shops, the tv, the magazines, the newspapers... .
whilst you were still a jw, how did you manage to get through it all?
you hit the nail on the head, its all about time with family, i agree thats what i missed the most,not all the pagan stuff, altho i miss the food and the social times, instead me and my kids spent 13 yrs all alone at christmas time, and beleive me the witnesses didnt compensate, theyd have their little clicky gatherings and we wernt invited, because i was a sole parent and not connected so to speak, and they didnt want kids around
in this org, there is no love, no caring, i was just a robot going to meetings, going to service on and on... what a waste....
love to all
nelly
sometimes you can only shake your head:us blocks cheap drugs agreement.
the united states has blocked an international agreement to allow poor countries to buy cheap drugs.
one-hundred and forty-three countries stood on the same ground, we were hoping to make that unanimous.
my boss who died nearly 2 years ago was an appeal judge for the WTO, he would have fixed all that he was a kind man...
seeing as most of us now realise that the organisation is not what it claims to be, then i was thinking what is mathew 24 verse 14 refering to?
and i dunno what to think other than satan has used this organisation to mislead millions but he used this one the most, as its easy to see that the catholics etc made huge bobo's but the truth was disguised to be the one and only true religion and many were fooled, i know i was for 13 yrs.
although things happened and i just brushed it off as imperfection.
seeing as most of us now realise that the organisation is not what it claims to be, then i was thinking what is mathew 24 verse 14 refering to? and I dunno what to think other than satan has used this organisation to mislead millions but he used this one the most, as its easy to see that the catholics etc made huge bobo's but the truth was disguised to be the one and only TRUE religion and many were fooled, i know i was for 13 yrs. although things happened and i just brushed it off as imperfection.
but look at how they controled us it was very very clever and cunning scheme and very effective,even down to communicating with any other cong u might move to so that you never got away with anything, its like all corrupt organisations the higher you get the more corrupt it gets its par for the course, I beleive that satan wouldnt be doing his job properly if he wasnt successful in misleading those who have good hearts........it was pointed out to me that most good people who were witnesses had hard lives and difficult backgrounds and were drawn to the promise of family brotherhood and love...... just the same as gangs do to attract members, preying on the vulnerable..... i know because i was such a vulnerable person at the time. I sat there all those years and in the last 3 I knew something was seriously wrong, as i didnt seem to get the same treatment as elders families MS families etc etc...... in other words i wasnt in the elite group.....and like someone else said they throw all that sickening love stuff at u when you study but as soon as the honeymoon baptism period is over then look out,ignoring you becomes the order of the day , unless of course you are bringing in new recruits by the droves.....hard to try to make sense of it all although one or two have posted here who have said things that I relate too so much its like we all seeing it through the same glasses with the same perceptions that has to count for something as we as humans all perceive differently.
food for thought??
love u all
nelly
Edited by - nelly1 on 19 December 2002 21:2:9
one double standard that always got to me was how a body of elders would talk about how a brother needed to "qualify" for some privilege by being a good example for weekend service and yet a number of elders would hardly ever go out in field service at all!
or how they would use 2 hours to literally gossip about everyone in the congregation, and then give a local needs talk on the need of not talking about the brothers and minding our own business.........what double standards got to you?
You read examples in almost every WT publication about how "love" motivates JWs to help, encourage and support one another through various crises. When it happens to you, unless you're a study progressing toward baptism (and therefore a subject of 'love-bombing') or an elder/ pioneer/ ministerial servant/ or one of their family members, you are up Sh!ts Creek without a paddle. As a matter of fact, if something bad happens to you, you are blamed for somehow being at the root of the problem anyway. You get told that the solution to the problem is to go out in service, attend all the meetings and pray more.
Also, the way JWs brag about how they are the MOST honest people on the planet. Yet they espouse the doctrine of Theocratic War Strategy, which allows them to only be truthful with those who "deserve" honesty.
Those are the two biggest examples of hypocrisy, IMO.
ohh boy scully are you ever right!!!!! u hit the nail right on the head mate.......grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr after i read all that is done to people in their name i want to screaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that poor brother with the cerebral palsy etc bless him, our god will reward him greatly for what happened to him and all others who have suffered i feel sooooo sad and so angry , sheesh hard to have those two emotions at once, lately i feel like i want to slap the elders in my cong and all other pple who do this stuff....... sorry i just get soooooooo mad........
i love u all
nelly
why is it that when the overseer visits the congregation, that just about everybody shows up to the meetings and they all go in the field service?
a whole week of endless zeal just to prove that they are all so spiritual.
is gone, they all come back to normal.
its called coming out of the woodwork darling and beleive me it happens everywhere, i have seen it myself, what a bunch of ass lickers huh? blehhhhhhhh
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does anyone here have nightmares about the witnesses after leaving, i seem to be having alot lately, and i cant stand banging into them they terrify me.
like if i think i see a person who looks like someone in my cong, and its not just looks like them i have a panic attack.......... im wondering because that is not normal for me...
thank you all so much for the encouragement, and you too dede, i dont know if u remember me i used to chat to you in about.com when you were still a witness, we missed you when it shut down, how is rotty and the kids? e mail me sometime and we can catch up.......hugss
thank you all im glad to know im not the only one, it was starting to worry me that id have these panic sessions in a supermarket its soooo not like me...im not shy or anything, but what they did to me has left terrible emotional and mental scars on me and i think thats why im like that but thanks all of u...
love to all nelly
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does anyone here have nightmares about the witnesses after leaving, i seem to be having alot lately, and i cant stand banging into them they terrify me.
like if i think i see a person who looks like someone in my cong, and its not just looks like them i have a panic attack.......... im wondering because that is not normal for me...
does anyone here have nightmares about the witnesses after leaving, I seem to be having alot lately, and i cant stand banging into them they terrify me. like if i think i see a person who looks like someone in my cong, and its not just looks like them I have a panic attack......... is that normal and does anyone else experience that? is it a sign of post traumatic stress?
im wondering because that is not normal for me...