Well, Clambake and Aroq, you just don't have a good heart and you're not humble enough to accept the truth, doncha know.
That's why they won't preach to you anymore. You've simply been written off as hopeless.
when asked, my mom denies that they do.... do local congregations pass along gossip or reports on householders in the area?
specifically, i am wondering if they might report on (unbaptized) family members that live in other towns?.
since the abrupt ending of my bs with miss k, i have not heard from the jw's at all.
Well, Clambake and Aroq, you just don't have a good heart and you're not humble enough to accept the truth, doncha know.
That's why they won't preach to you anymore. You've simply been written off as hopeless.
i read here regularly and although i haven't joined in, i really appreciate all the wonderful contributions from those who are willing to share their experiences.... .
i was a convert.
i won't go into the whole history ( perhaps another day) - my story could easily be recognised in the small town where i live, with my husband.. so, we stopped going to the meetings around a period of time when we were going through severe emotional difficulties - at that point, we needed unconditional family love - the hectic, forced jw dinner parties and social occasions gave no real comfort.
Thanks for sharing, WingCommander. I've heard your story before, but thanks for posting again for the newbies.
Having grown up in the same circuit, I know that it is rife with cliques and materialism. Many business owners who own not only large homes, but large vacation homes. You work for them, make decent money yourself, or you're out of the clique of the "cool kids."
There's a large amount of pioneers, too, but that's just a gate of exclusivity to keep out the "lesser" ones. It's really just a social club that gives you access to the grapevine of gossip
When I'm visiting my mom and someone from the hall calls, you should hear how quickly her voice changes to a syrupy, fake tone that sounds like the talks at the hall. It's all such a sham. She's always done this. She could be screaming her head off, but would turn on a dime when the phone rang, sounding like the most kind, "Christian" person in the world. But it was play acting and fake, fake, fake.
And then there's the bragging about attending large anniversary parties or baby showers or sales parties where you can buy expensive handbags. Or stories of large groups of people vacationing together in a brother's large vacation home which he deducts as a business expense.
I had it out with a sister about ten years ago because she threw a large anniversary party for my parents and didn't invite us children. Even me who is not currently disfellowshipped. Normal people don't do that. They don't have a large anniversary party for a couple and not invite their children! I held them to the same standard of decency as the rest of the world and threw a fit about the rudeness of it all. They are such morally bankrupt people.
i read here regularly and although i haven't joined in, i really appreciate all the wonderful contributions from those who are willing to share their experiences.... .
i was a convert.
i won't go into the whole history ( perhaps another day) - my story could easily be recognised in the small town where i live, with my husband.. so, we stopped going to the meetings around a period of time when we were going through severe emotional difficulties - at that point, we needed unconditional family love - the hectic, forced jw dinner parties and social occasions gave no real comfort.
Hi, Alive! I just wanted to let you know that I hear the amount of pain you are in and you're in my thoughts.
I suffer from bipolar disorder and sometimes the depression gets bad. Psychological pain is real pain and I can empathize.
My advice is to be kind to yourself daily. Go outside and get some exercise in the sunshine. Eat healthy food. Go to the produce section and buy beautiful, colorful fruits and veggies! Take a warm bubble bath. Drink chamomile tea before bed. Get plenty of sleep. Leave your shades open so you wake up to sunshine!
And, please go see your doctor if you begin to feel absolutely hopeless. Depression is common, but a diagnosed major depressive episode can be deadly.
You will be able to build a new life. There are sooo many others on this board who have had their young adult years stolen and who are now building a positive and even exciting new life.
Thank you for dropping in. It will be such a pleasure to get to know you better!
do you help or is this a woman job?
have you change your ways since.
leaving the borg.
do you help or is this a woman job?
have you change your ways since.
leaving the borg.
You're right, cappytan it's a pattern and humans are creatures of habit.
If you make a new habit/pattern to come home from work and just do one small chore before even sitting down, it will become just as natural to you in time.
You've got to harness the human tendency to habitual behavior to your advantage.
For me, I throw in one load of laundry as soon as I come home. It's just like an extension of my work day.
And then you will come to understand why women don't feel their stress go away when the work day is over. Their stress levels are just as high because they are thinking of all the work that needs to be done at home. (the second shift)
do you help or is this a woman job?
have you change your ways since.
leaving the borg.
My husband does the grocery shopping and cooking. When I have to cook, it's very simple fare which he doesn't really care for. I usually do the dishes and clean up the kitchen.
I do most of the indoor cleaning with the exception of the bathtubs. Even with Scrubbing Bubbles, it takes me forever to get the grime out of the tub and he can knock it out in a few minutes!
My son, who is 14, helps with the vacuuming sometimes and yesterday he helped mow the lawn.
My husband does exterior maintenance, but the gardening we do together. He has done the snowblowing in the past, but my son now also helps with that.
I do all the laundry. I also do the finances. These are things I like to do, though.
He does the car maintenance though I pump my own gas.
Home improvement work we work on together, though anything that has to be assembled is my job. I was the one who always stayed up late Christmas Eve assembling various large toys!
I feel like our arrangement is very fair and we both seem to be satisfied.
i continue to be saddened by the fact that i am married to such a selfish man.. i want to know if i am the only wife who has no say when it comes to using the house she lives in for activities including other people.. .
let me explain.. yesterday my daugher who is 35 got a new puppy for my grandaughter who is 13. today my daughter and son in law are going to help my uncle at a job, and my granddaughter wanted to spend the day here, my daugher said shed bring her and the puppy over, i laughed and said 'your dad wont have that, ill have to go to your house'.. after all it will 'upset' the 2 cats they will hide all day [like they do anytime someone including my grandchild is in my home] .. i already knew that he would not like it if she brought the puppy over, [weve had dogs so its not like he hates them].
he doesnt care if his grandaughter would have enjoyed playing with the puppy over grandmas house, where she likes to be for a change, and that fact that id like to see what my cats would do when they saw a dog for the first time in thier lives.. maybe id have liked to play with the puppy .. when i said to my husband that my daughter said she wanted tp bring them over he said.
Hi, sowhatnow. I remember this post from 4 months ago and I'm glad to see that you are making progress. What broke my heart was when you said you miss your cats. :(
However, so much has happened to you in such a short period of time that I can hardly believe it! A new apartment! Alimony! Dating!
I read through the entire thread again and what I noticed most is your change in outlook. Your old posts were very pessimistic, but this last post has you sounding much more optimistic. It's so much easier to get through the day from a position of optimism.
I think now that you have all your time to yourself that you'll be able to find things that interest you. Just try everything! You'll dislike some of it, but it takes lots of exploring to find yourself. This is what most people do in adolesence and young adulthood, but you had this stolen from you. Do it now. Do it bravely. You will eventually find a stable sense of self.
You are so very brave! Congratulations on your new start in life!
GrreatTeacher
i'm going to be honest and from the heart when i say that for 40 years in the jw religion i was very happy in my ignorance!
man, what a trip it was.
i loved every minute of it but then i was absent the bad in my religion.
i have thought about how ttatt came full circle for me.
how the connecting the dots was simple and just made sense,.
how silos of information are literally at our fingertips today.. why is it that the ones we love cannot get ttatt?.
You have to be willing to think for yourself and then trust your conclusions.
It's no coincidence that being an "independent thinker" is a big Watchtower sin.
so tomorrow is going to be my last encounter with a jw friend of mine for various reasons on her side.
(long story).
i have spent a lot of time discussing various concerns about the jw teachings, but havent been able to make any progress in helping her to question or doubt the teachings.
"I absolutely love you and your religion is absolutely crazy.
I will always be here for you. Any time in the future, just give me a call and I'll be there."