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  The flat earth conspiracy!

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok. let me first start by saying i am not a flat earther.

  i like most on here will have the same view most will have here about our planet.

  in saying that however, i am incredibly gob smacked by the book written by eric dubay called 'the flat earth conspiracy'.

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  GrreatTeacher

  Hey, Truthexplorer, I checked out your link.

  I have no idea what this guy saw when he said he still saw the entire boat at 6 miles. I have no way to verify his experience, but I think that 6 miles is a pretty short distance on an ocean horizon. You can easily see much longer than that. This goes against my own and others' reported experiences of seeing the mast first when appearing and last when disappearing on the horizon.

  As regards the argument that roads that are thousands of miles long and are entirely level proving a flat earth, what comes to mind is that 'level' is relevant to a specific point on the earth and subject to the gravity that exists on the surface of that particular point of a sphere. Thus, it would measure as level even though you travel around the sphere, curving as you go. I have no idea how scientific this explanation is, but it only took about 30 seconds to come up with a possible idea to refute the flat earth evidence.

  Good on you for sharpening your critical thinking skills. The standard for evidence we are conditioned with in the Truth is low. It takes practice to learn to be logical about acceptable evidence.
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  The flat earth conspiracy!

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok. let me first start by saying i am not a flat earther.

  i like most on here will have the same view most will have here about our planet.

  in saying that however, i am incredibly gob smacked by the book written by eric dubay called 'the flat earth conspiracy'.

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  GrreatTeacher

  Ever watch a sailboat disappear into the ocean? The last part you see is the top of the mast. This is because the earth is spherical.
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  More Young Indoctrination

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure how wide spread this is, but from my social media land i saw 2 separate videos, from two halls in completely different towns featuring their kids having a demonstration on the service meeting (i am guessing last night as i didn't go).

  these kids are really young!

  maybe this was just a coincidence at first i thought it was the same video then realized theses people live hundreds of miles apart.

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  GrreatTeacher

  Not to derail the thread, but I wonder if people will start naming their kids Sophia. Kinda like Catholics name their daughters Mary?
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  If They Stopped Shunning Tomorrow?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine that the cult decided to stop shunning family members on the proviso that the dfd person was not actively trying to attack the cult.. (please don't debate whether or not this is likely - it's hypothetical).

  how would you respond to your family?.

  personally i think i would be less than cooperative.

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  GrreatTeacher

  I don't have family members shunning me, but past acquaintances would be dicey. If the just popped up and said, "We can talk to you now!" it would bother me because they hadn't apologized for how they treatef me in the past. If you don't own up to your mistakes and apologize, then I don't think it would be healthy to pursue a relationship. It would be like condoning past abuse without an apology.
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  Sometimes the most obvious connections are the most difficult to make

  by neverendingjourney in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had a sudden realization the other day, one that took me many years to make but that should have been fairly obvious in hindsight.

  let me explain.. my parents are immigrants.

  they moved to the u.s. when i was a toddler.

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  GrreatTeacher

  Yes, and lots of JWs work those types of jobs as well. We had a Pioneer / Cutco Knife salesperson and a Pioneer / Avon lady in my hall growing up.
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  Should I Make My Wife Watch the May Broadcast?

  by TTATTelder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for some background, i am still in.

  still an elder.

  very much awake.

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  GrreatTeacher

  My mother pulled out the imperfect organization line one too many times until my ever conservative at the mouth sister finally blurted out, "Well, I don't WANT to be involved with an imperfect organization!"

  Well done, sis.

  It's really a stupid argument when you think about it. Your argument in favor of the org is that it's imperfect? So, if an organization is perfect then that's bad? But yet we must strive for perfection? But, if we fail, then that proves its God's organization?
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  The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.

  after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.

  the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.

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  GrreatTeacher

  I noticed you used the past tense when saying you were a good dad.

  Don't do that! You are the same dad you always have been! Arguably better because you are showing your kids how to live a healthy life, now!
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  Help, suggestion for Mother Day.

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ex jw we are not so great in gift giving, we don't have a lot of experience.

  lol.

  mother day always confuse me, why should i give my wife a gift, she is not my.

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  GrreatTeacher

  I'm with you on the chicken, but not so much the grits. How about chicken and waffles?
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  Ties at the Kingdom Hall

  by CloseTheDoor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  couple of weeks ago an elder took a young man aside and crawled all over him after the tms for wearing a "skinny" tie.

  it was one of those 2 inch wide ties.

  nothing bright or scandalous about.

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  GrreatTeacher

  The only way to get a bully to back down and respect you is to stand up to them.

  "Well, Brother Nosey, the next time I go clothes shopping I'll invite you and your wallet along because I've completely blown my clothes budget for the year!"
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  "The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

  by Alive! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

  really?

  and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

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  GrreatTeacher

  They're taking your money, a watcher. And if you're not giving much, they definitely want more.