the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.
whatever begins to exist had a cause.
therefore the universe had a cause.
This beginning without a cause being a problem thing is silly.
Beginnings are simply Endings of something else.
This is not a new concept and is part and parcel of hindu thought in which there is a trinity of gods, including Brahma the creator and Shiva the destroyer (as well as Vishnu the preserver).
This Trinity expresses the idea that beginnings are simply the new expression of endings. They are part and parcel of each other.
Needing a Causer is very Western thought.
the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.
whatever begins to exist had a cause.
therefore the universe had a cause.
the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.
whatever begins to exist had a cause.
therefore the universe had a cause.
the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.
whatever begins to exist had a cause.
therefore the universe had a cause.
Don't be disingenuous.
We all know your belief is that the first cause is God with a capital G.
That is not at all the same conversation that scientists are having about the beginning of the universe.
the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.
whatever begins to exist had a cause.
therefore the universe had a cause.
"must by necessity?" exist outside of space-time?
Either that, or there was no first cause, but a rather slow arising of organic chemical compounds along the lines of the way we know things work in organic chemistry.
Why would one go to the extreme of jumping out of space-time!?!
i also heard the video was being discussed on howard stern today.
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Remember when Joe Camel was a cartoon advertisement for Camel cigarettes?
The courts finally decided that since it was a cartoon it was a violation of the law against marketkng to minors, and the Joe Camel campaign was stopped?
This is what is so upsetting to me: it's a cartoon and the audience is children.
I've known kids who grew up JWs when I did and told me they never really paid attention at the meetings and didn't really understand the teachings.
With all of this direct-to-children advertisement, it seems unlikely that that could ever happen again.
the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.
whatever begins to exist had a cause.
therefore the universe had a cause.
i saw this old news article posted on another forum:.
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030431/1917-02-04/ed-1/seq-52/.
See Wild Thing's post "A Picture of the First Bethel" from yesterday.
There's a newspaper clipping with that information that I commented on.
Miracle Wheat, Brown's Wonder Salve and the Watchtower magazine; all brought to you by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society!
my son graduates with his bachelors degree, cum laude!.
he is the first in my family to graduate with a four year degree.
and he is already in talks for a teaching job.. so, gerrit lush....up your nose with a rubber hose!
Congratulations. Graduating with honors is impressive.
I can really appreciate the tremendous amount of effort put forth by your son. It's a really big deal.
You must be outrageously proud!
here is a picture of 124 columbia heights in brooklyn that russell purchased when he moved his operations to brooklyn.
it belonged to another preacher, henry ward beecher, before he died.
russell also bought his other properties that beecher had on hick street, which i guess would be the first assembly hall.
So, the colporteurs used to sell Brown's Wonder Salve along with the books.
It said the society paid $.17 for it and sold it to the colporteurs at $.25 ( I think. It was hard to read here.) Then, they sold it to householders along with the Bible literature.
Then, whenever the government got onto them for not paying taxes on these side ventures (like Miracle Wheat), Rutherford claimed that he wasn't making money on them. Everything was just sold at cost.
I remember using that line door to door in the '70s and '80s.
It's an interesting read if you can zoom in close enough.
