a friend of mine (who is waking up), recently had the elders do a sheep herding visit.. they were browbeating my friend about attending meetings.
my friend has been ill and unable to attend anyway.. what response would you give to this garbage?.
if we were in a house and it was on fire and we couldnt walk we would have to crawl.. an example of a sister with an iron lung was brought up to show that if shes in this condition, we need to examine ourselves.
I think the false equivalence in the burning building analogy is that if a building is on fire, you'd want to exit it, but they are asking him / her to enter a building, the KH.
It's simply that stupid an analogy.
So, yes, the KH is afire with death-dealing false doctrines, so the thing to do is run or crawl for the exits as fast as you can!
hi, to everyone my username is enzo, .
recently a saw a video presented by john cedar presenting steve hassan as a cult expert.. .
but read this reviews presented on cult news about steve hassan's books, and it's up to you make your own opinion about the video.
Great summary, Londo. Rather than being so overt, the sneaky nature of some of these things makes the WT all the more dangerous.
i am having a discussion at work with the jw's.
should you spank a child to make them understand or do you reason with them.
they both agree with spanking.
When you swat at a child and he immediately strikes back, that is a direct response to your use of force.
Regarding running into traffic, retrieving the child from danger, holding them tightly while forcing them to look at you and telling them, "No! The street is dangerous!" and allowing them to hear the urgency in your voice is just as effective and teaches them the reason why.
Why are parents allowing their children to be so close to the street, anyhow? Aren't they supervising? I once had my 3 year old go to step off the curb at a shopping center while we were heading back to our car just a split second before me when a car came speeding around the corner. I grabbed him by the hood of his winter coat and yanked him up to safety while his little feet were still walking in the air! A stern, "No!" and hearing the fear in my voice and seeing the fear in my eyes was better than what any spanking could have done.
i am having a discussion at work with the jw's.
should you spank a child to make them understand or do you reason with them.
they both agree with spanking.
I swore I would never spank and then had a child who was a holy terror. I ended up swatting him on the butt out of frustration until he started hitting me back at age 3.
I was horrified when I realized that I had taught him that by my example. The spanking stopped abruptly.
hello friends,.
i am an ex jw been out of the organisation since 2000, just written my memoirs which contains the story of my life in the organisation and the circumstances surrrounding my exit, also contains the story of sexual abuse in the org.
so if anyone is interested they can look at my website.
Well, weren't you cute as a button at age 2!
Welcome to JWN.
last sunday after sitting through the ca an eldurr whom i know related this story about the warwick compound construction, as related to him by someone who had just returned from their tour of duty.. "the property is over-run with rattlesnakes.
so there are assigned brothers who catch and release them off property.
they won't kill them.
Timber rattlesnakes exist in New York state, mostly in the southeast, but are listed as "Threatened" by the New York Department of Environmental Conservation.
hi, to everyone my username is enzo, .
recently a saw a video presented by john cedar presenting steve hassan as a cult expert.. .
but read this reviews presented on cult news about steve hassan's books, and it's up to you make your own opinion about the video.
He already has his mind made up and then pretends he wants to have a discussion.
Well, since you've already made your mind up, then surely nothing I could say would matter.
At my son's school, black socks and sandals worn with shorts are all the rage! I didn't believe him and made him change several times until I went to visit the school one day and all the teenage boys were wearing them! I mean they looked just like the picture above, except they wore slide in sandals with no backs. (And their legs weren't quite as hairy! )
They must do it deliberately to irritate their elders. Just like that multicolored bowling shoe craze about ten years ago. Just pick the things your parents think are the ugliest and make them cool. We didn't do that, did we?
despite my user name, am female.
i was not born-in, began studying when i was around 20, am 50 damn years old now and have spent almost the last 30 years in that stupid religion.
but here are some observations, make of them what you will.
Thanks, Muddy. That gives me some insight into the 'loss of control' type of behaviors I have seen in my parents' relationship.
If you were drawn to the religion to gain a feeling of control over your life, that must feel terrifying.
someting happened yesterday that i thought might be noteworty enough to relate to you here.. mrs. eyz and i were invited to my new boss's home for his annual end of summer party.
it's a pretty big deal....his is a name known locally (i'll call him j.r.) a really nice interesting guy who's held a number of high level and politically connected jobs.
there was to be music, dancing, wine and reprotedly lots of well dressed, well educated, well to do and influential people (oh yes...and us) in attendance.. anyway we thought we'd make an occasion out of it and got ourselves spiffed up which involved new outfits and extra mirror time before we left home.
I wonder what the conversation was in their car on the way home...
Loved. Every. Word.
