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  Washington Post Covers the Australia RC investigation

  by LisaRose in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i came across this story in the washington post.

  it's nice to see they are covering the royal commission.

  i have a kindle, everyone who buys one gets free six month subscription (it automatically downloads twice a day) to the post , so i imagine this will get read by a lot of people.

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  GrreatTeacher

  Yes, somebody, I forget who, posted this the other day.

  It's good to get exposure in major US newspapers.

  Love the quote that their procedures are "bizarre" and "medieval!"
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  RC news

  by Larrikin in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nsw/senior-jehovahs-witness-geoffrey-jackson-says-church-might-offer-compensation-to-alleged-abuse-victims-20150814-giyxuu.html

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  GrreatTeacher

  Thanks for posting. Good to see this info in a major American newspaper.
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  Witness behavior in my gym ....

  by SecretSlaveClass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  about two months ago two very attractive ladies in their mid 30's signed on at one of the gyms i belong to.

  for a while i noticed them watching me and naturally i assumed they were taking an interest in how i went about training my clients since many do before they decide to approach me and inquire about my services (i own a health and fitness consultancy).. sure enough one of them approached me a few weeks back and asked me for a business card, inquired about rates and various other aspects involved with signing on with me.

  i handed her a card and explained that my client schedule was full but she should consider signing on with one of my personal trainers who still had some open spots available.

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  GrreatTeacher

  And, yes, we don't really pride ourselves on individualism up north.

  We tend to value cooperation and collective action more.

  I really value traveling where I can see a place close up and get a good feel for it.
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  Witness behavior in my gym ....

  by SecretSlaveClass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  about two months ago two very attractive ladies in their mid 30's signed on at one of the gyms i belong to.

  for a while i noticed them watching me and naturally i assumed they were taking an interest in how i went about training my clients since many do before they decide to approach me and inquire about my services (i own a health and fitness consultancy).. sure enough one of them approached me a few weeks back and asked me for a business card, inquired about rates and various other aspects involved with signing on with me.

  i handed her a card and explained that my client schedule was full but she should consider signing on with one of my personal trainers who still had some open spots available.

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  GrreatTeacher

  Agreed. Growing up in the ' 80s up north (on the Mason Dixon line) guns were just about forbidden.

  "Guns are not for Christians," was the refrain.

  A few "fast" brothers had shotguns for hunting, but that was mostly frowned upon.
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  Billy's comments to the RC #1 - "We always require at least two witnesses... except for when we don't."

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm still trying to catch up on the rc broadcast posted to youtube, and i haven't been able to keep up with everything discussed here about it.

  however, there have been a few points that i wish i could submit.

  repeatedly it has been stated that unless there is a confession, jcs can only act on testimony if it is corroborated by two or more witnesses to the wrongdoing.

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  GrreatTeacher

  Sorry, not "disfellowshipping," but rather "scriptural freedom."

  But, someone's getting disfellowshipped, anyhow.
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  Billy's comments to the RC #1 - "We always require at least two witnesses... except for when we don't."

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm still trying to catch up on the rc broadcast posted to youtube, and i haven't been able to keep up with everything discussed here about it.

  however, there have been a few points that i wish i could submit.

  repeatedly it has been stated that unless there is a confession, jcs can only act on testimony if it is corroborated by two or more witnesses to the wrongdoing.

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  GrreatTeacher

  You know, I try not to be pedantic regarding spelling, but paragraph 13 of the Elder's Manual is really annoying because they replaced one word with another that means something completely different.

  "Wrongdoing that would provide a BASES for disfellowshipping." Really?

  Wouldn't BASIS be the word you're reaching for, oh perfect organization?

  Unless you're talking about that weird baseball sexual metaphor. I mean, which base would be enough for disfellowshipping? 2nd? 3rd? Or would you have to go all the way to Home?

  Sorry, carry on.
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  Witness behavior in my gym ....

  by SecretSlaveClass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  about two months ago two very attractive ladies in their mid 30's signed on at one of the gyms i belong to.

  for a while i noticed them watching me and naturally i assumed they were taking an interest in how i went about training my clients since many do before they decide to approach me and inquire about my services (i own a health and fitness consultancy).. sure enough one of them approached me a few weeks back and asked me for a business card, inquired about rates and various other aspects involved with signing on with me.

  i handed her a card and explained that my client schedule was full but she should consider signing on with one of my personal trainers who still had some open spots available.

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  GrreatTeacher

  Don't worry too much about it. You likely won't see her around the gym ever again.
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  We're All Going To Die

  by Garrett in

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  2. friends

  life has been busy, but i am now on 2 weeks vacation which allowed me some thinking room.

  and here's what's been on my mind.. we're all going to die.

  no matter what we do, our fate is sealed.

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  GrreatTeacher

  I think the right to die movement has come from a careful consideration of the preciousness of life.

  If we can't be here forever, at least we can have some control over the kind of life we live.

  If the quality is not there, we might choose to compromise on the quantity.
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  Bumbling idiots..... RC & JW broadcast

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one of the contributing factors to me leaving was the realisation we were being led by idiots.

  bethel life reinforced that, middle aged ego's trying to suck up to brooklyn.

  ray franz book was a final nail for me, because he described the same incompetence along with the same ego's.

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  GrreatTeacher

  Exactly as I was thinking.

  When the GB were basically unknown, you could assume they were competent...

  ...until they opened their mouths and proved that assumption unfounded.

  Maybe they might consider the value of staying out of the limelight again?
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  Rodney Spinks Lies...

  by iwasblind in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hi guys.

  i actually have had dealings with rod and found him to be a very reasonable and "non-robotic" man in the past.. i know it should not surprise me, but i was disappointed to hear his lies and half-truths.. they know their stuff and are not easily led, but he tried to lead the royal commission to believe that 2 people could be involved in investigating a claim - which is wrong.. his lack of memory on what parts of the judicial process are biblical - hello - none are.

  there are no scriptures that backup the use of 3 men, a body of elders, cutting people off from family and friends, restrictions, etc.. he also lied about the gb being involved in policy creation and changes.. his statement that in all cases, elders are told to inform parents that they can go to the authorities and get the full support of the congregation is not verifiable.

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  GrreatTeacher

  Spinks' testimony was probably the worst for the JWs.

  He was belligerent, arrogant, defensive, refused to plainly answer questions and read scriptures instead. He attempted to "teach" as he would in the Kingdom Hall, not realizing that that was very disrespectful and inappropriate.

  His behavior was the worst with the female solicitors.

  Thank goodness Justice McClellan intervened on many occasions and forced a clear response.

  McClellan made it clear that despite their good intentions (which Spinks blew a gasket trying to defend) that their PROCESS nevertheless leaves children at risk!

  Why is that so terrible to admit and address? A little contrition would go a long way. Instead he comes off looking like an ass and a not very sympathetic one at that!