I learned about "preferential treatment" at a very young age - 10. An MS and his family moved into our Congregation with his family, which included a 13-yr old bold named David. Of course, since Daddy MS was an MS already, he had instant authority. David, (who had to repeat a few years of school because of his family moving around so much) was in my 4th grade class. David was a totally two-faced double-lifer manipulative bully. He hated and resented that I was a straight-A student, and overall JW goody-two-shoes at the time. So, David took it upon himself to gather the other bullies and have the crap kicked out of me on almost daily basis. After several Principal calls later, my parents were fed up with this incredible treatment, and actually took photos of my bruised body. (this was 1989, BTW). A meeting was called between our families one Saturday at the Kingdom Hall. At said meeting, I was questioned by this Daddy MS about what I was doing, etc and eventually it was stated by Daddy MS that "I" must be bringing these beatings upon myself!!!!!!! Basically, we were treated to a, "Blame the Victim Party", and I was the guest of honour. I was 10 years old, David was 13!!!! WTF???? I can't recall how my parents handled it, but I left that meeting bawling, and I never saw the Organization the same way ever again. So much for "Divine Protection." I never had a lick of problems in grade school up until this point, and now a 13-yr old JW had kicked the crap out of me repeatedly and somehow, "I" was responsible for my own belittlement??? Something switched on in me that year. I said, "F*ck this hateful environment", and never trusted another JW ever again. Several years later (I was 16 I believe) I was visiting a different Congregation for the Memorial. I was taking a leak in a stall when David and some other guy walked in. They didn't know (or care?) that anyone else was in there. They were talking about which Pioneer Sister they wanted to bang. At the Memorial!!!!! What a freakin' scumbag that guy turned out to be. Be he was a manipulative narcissist, so everyone thought he was just great!! Well guess what? They can have that douchebag. They can keep him. I never had to sit in a JC, but sitting in a meeting were an MS who was new got to question me about my own beatings, and then turning it around to make it out like it was my fault and deserved it, was enough for me. I was 10! I can really feel for how you all. I felt so violated and like I didn't matter.....
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Wolves in sheep clothing
by Israel Ricky Gonzales ini was baptized then i was 15 years old and just entering high school.
i had been a perfect jw teenager through out my high school years, although i craved to be a little bit worldly.
when i graduated high school, i moved out and got a job working with my older non-jw brother.
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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel
by _Morpheus inso fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
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Oh I like reading about Bethel experiences, but I'd estimate 75% of this thread is the "Fisherman" BS back-n-forth.
Sheesh.
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I just luv how they are already looking ahead to selling off all of the vehicles, tools, and equipment they have used in order to squeeze out every last "nickle" and dime. What greed. How about donating some of those vehicles to the less fortunate ones in congregations who need them? How about giving or loaning all of those wonderful tools and equipment to RBC quickbuild sites, etc in order to save THEM money and expense? It's like they don't have any foresight or care at all about anyone outside of the Warwick bubble. -
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I Was Told That The Elders Have Not Gone After Me Because They Hope I Will Return!
by minimus inthe elders told my mom they obviously could have come after me but are holding hope that i will return to jehovah and be reunited to the congregation.. isnt that nice?.
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C'mon now Minimus, you KNOW it's Da Truth! Return to Jah, grovel to the Elduh's for a year and be shunned like a Leper, and maybe someday you will have the "privilege" returned to you of being able to clean the KH toilets again. Feel the love!!!!! -
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Just Sharing a couple of experiences I heard in the last day or two about ones leaving the Borg.
by Crazyguy ini was having breakfast with a friend and former jw just yesterday and he informed me that the place we were eating in is owned by a former witness.
the story goes as he tells me that the wife and husband or on the outs and getting a divorce.
now just so you know the state i live in, a divorce is not quick, mandatory waiting period etc.
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The best "loving" Elder message I ever got? About 3 days before my terminally ill mother was about to die from a failed liver transplant, I called up the COBE to ask him if he could come "Shepherd" my dying mother, to offer some sort of words to comfort her, scriptural support to my family, etc. This was at 7pm on a Wednesday evening. I was alone in my car, in the parking garage of the University Hospital. He bluntly told me that I was interrupting his supper, asked what he thought he should do about it, and then told me that I should contact the local Elders at the local Congregation in that area (she went to a JW-approved hospital in the next state for "bloodless" organ transplant), and have THEM (complete strangers) come Shepherd us. He then hung up. I was left with tears in my eyes, and my jaw on the floor, looking at my cell phone. After 25 years, THIS was how my JW mother in good standing was being treated? How I was being treated? F*ck them. I never heard from that man again. He didn't come to my mother's funeral either. That's ok; I went to his funeral a year later to "pay-back" the lack of respect we were shown. Jehovah apparently didn't protect and look over him as he died in a construction accident.
Karma as far as I'm concerned.
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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel
by _Morpheus inso fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
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WTF? 11 pages of this back-n-forth BS? Why have the mods and/or Simon not locked and deleted this thread? This has got to be the most drawn-out ridiculousness I've ever seen on this forum. Wow!! -
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Interview by Priest George Maximov with XJW Artem Grigoryan who was a volunteer at the Russian "Bethel" for 4.5 years. Here's what he said:
by AndersonsInfo intop of formhttp://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/78966.htm.
jehovahs witnesses do not need a search for the truth.
artem grigoryan.
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New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums
by suavojr inlet the merging begin!!!.
to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.
re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.
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New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums
by suavojr inlet the merging begin!!!.
to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.
re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.
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Know what I find really disturbing? The use (multiple times) of the words "Master Plan." If that's doesn't scream "old Krout-controlling-Nazi-cult-leadership", I don't know what does. That is really creepy and weird.
"Ya Schroeder, Franz told me dat ve hav to cut bach on uzing da gas chambers so much, ve need to conserve da Zyclon-B."
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The 1995 Generation Change
by sloppyjoe2 ini was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.
everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.
this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.
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@ steve2:
That was a perfect summation of JW's today. Totally spot on.