Posts by WingCommander

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JW to SDA anyone do it ?

by Introvert 2 in

a couple friends pointed me to some info on the sabbath and i just plain like it, being the workaholic i am it's a lifesaver for me and gives me the motivation to be more balanced about my business and work schedule.

so from there i looked into the adventists and found a hall near my place and went last week.

i honestly enjoyed myself and the meeting time is not disruptive and the people were great and pretty laid back.

WingCommander

SDA's are just as crazy at JW's. Think I'm kidding? Check out their LITERATURE. I was at our local fair about 3 years ago, and there was a stand set up by SDA's. (Kind of like the JW's do now - ha!!!) Anyway, what caught my eye was the literature they had sprawled out on the table. The size, look, and specifically the artwork could have been straight from WatchTowers and Awake!'s. It was really, REALLY creepy.....especially with all of the end-time apocalyptic crap on it.

Seriously, SDA is just another flavor of cult crazy. All this talk about how "harmless" they are, is just like what you hear people say about Mormons with their outreach programs, schools, family night, etc. Another flavor of crazy that most people don't have a clue about until they are wrapped up in it. The poster above who mentioned that they do NOT recognize other denominations and that you must belong to their group - that should really be a red flag for anyone who's ever been in a cult. Exclusive salvation thru association is a cult trademark. Jim Jones had it, David Koresh had it, JW's have it, and SDA's have it as well.

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New picture...about time...sorry for bat gravatar

by blondie in

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if only it was so easy to change our looks in real life........

WingCommander

Call meeeeeeee................

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So I was enjoying a business trip in down town Bangkok...............Next thing BANG!!!

by cantleave in

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so last night i was having a wonderful meal in a very nice restaurant when we heard what we thought was a loud clap of thunder.................. it was a bomb.

yards from my hotel.

thankfully i made a few decision that meant i wasn't in the wrong place at the wrong time.

WingCommander

I'm betting the "religion of peace" has something to do with it. I've been to Bangkok as well. Not the safest city, but I enjoyed my experience. Hard Rock Cafe was jumping the night I went to treat our Thai hosts to dinner.

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JW to SDA anyone do it ?

by Introvert 2 in

a couple friends pointed me to some info on the sabbath and i just plain like it, being the workaholic i am it's a lifesaver for me and gives me the motivation to be more balanced about my business and work schedule.

so from there i looked into the adventists and found a hall near my place and went last week.

i honestly enjoyed myself and the meeting time is not disruptive and the people were great and pretty laid back.

WingCommander

A bit of clarification is in order: IBSA / JW's are NOT an offshoot of SDA's. SDA's and IBSA / JW's are kissing cousins, having been born of the Milleritte Movement. Russell borrowed some "crazy" from the SDA's sure enough, but then added in his own crazy occult pyramidology, Freemasonry inclinations, etc into the pot to create his own stew of mathematical occult gibberish.

I'm in Pennsylvania, birthplace of all of this end-times Apocalyptic CRAP. SDA's around here do a lot of good, have a lot of schools, etc. However, they are just as "cult-like" as the JW's, and I've also heard of controlling Elder bodies, harassment, Pharasitical behaviour, and (Drum roll) - SHUNNING. They are only slightly lower on the rung of cults. My list of crazy would read like this:

1.) Scientology

2.) FLDA

3.) Branch Dravidians (an offshoot of SDA's, by the way!!!)

4.) Mormon / LDS

5.) JW's / IBSA

6.) SDA's

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badly handled from Elders

by Olivia Wilde in

i am still attending the kh, i actually recently became aware of the ttatt, what i believed came as a huge surprised for me, i wasn't raised as a jw and have been for about 15 years.

i have always been a very open minded individual all my life always seeing both sides of any situation with logic and common sense and so i believe discovering all of the doctrines i have been taught sense 16 years of age, wasn't extremely hard for me to realize in my heart it was a lie.

well it was me discovering the watchtower society being a ngo member of the un nations for 10 years, after that the snowball just got bigger for me.

WingCommander

I'd find this person somewhere.......out and about some evening where it's quite and they are alone. I'd then proceed to kick the living dog shit out of them. I'd beat them to within an inch of their petty lives. I wouldn't kill them, they'd just wish they were dead. I'd then ask them, "What are you going to do about it? Tell the phony Elders? There aren't two witnesses to your slanderous accusations. How do YOU like being beat down, you punk bitch?" I'd of course be wearing lead-sap gloves, so that I wouldn't bruise my hands, only their ribs & face with each blow. That's what a chronic, abusive, self-centered narcissist like that deserves. A freakin' beat-down.

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How's things "down your way"?

by freddo in

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so in "your" cong/circuit/regional area how are all things jw?.

baptisms this year?

assembly attendances?

WingCommander

Geriatric Ward. That's what I'd call it. I'm 36, in Central PA, only 3.5 hrs from Brooklyn HQ. KH's around here look like ghost towns or old folks homes. Last time I set foot into one on a Sunday (OMG, nearly 10 years ago now), 2/3rd's of the KH was empty. I'd say 80-90% of kids over 18 that I grew up with have LEFT, never to return. And I tell you, there were a lot of "good" kids that I never would have imagined to leave, that have left, married, had kids, and are living a normal "worldly" life, filled with activities that "normal" people do. How do I know? Facebook profiles and photos of their families and vacations tell me so, along with profile info as well as other sources. It's absolutely amazing. People are truly fed up with this crap. Only minorities and the under-educated are falling for this craptacular cult.

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Local (small) Baptist church bought my neighbor a car

by Zoos in

and elderly woman who lives across the street from me has had some hard economic times.

her adult son got injured and had to move back in with her due to his inability to work.

they are struggling.

WingCommander

Local used car salesman Elder would ask needy person to buy a lemon at great profit only to himself, then pass it off as "Charity" the Congregation and walk around claiming he's so "blessed" to be a "Prince among men, one of God's stars."

JW's would NEVER give someone a car, never! Not Pioneers, not Elders, no one! Even CO's who are "given" cars are given cars paid for by other JW's!

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MIND BOGGLING !!!

by brandnew in

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ok....how is this possible.....at a 1 day assembly??.....

how do opperating costs, come up to $2300 in one frikkin day?.

watchtower owned.....4 congregation assembly hall , on a small island ?

WingCommander

Is the Assembly Hall powered by solar power? My 2200 sqft home has an electric bill of $200.00 per month. How much do you think a building that size electric bill is? Utilities cost a LOT. I know....as I also help design LEED certified buildings in the commercial and industrial building industry. Upkeep on property costs a lot, even if you have volunteers doing a lot of it.

I'm not saying the Org isn't skimming a good bit off the top though. That's more than probable.

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I believe that the greater percentage of JWs-You Will Not Be Able to Help, no Matter What Facts You Show Them.

by John Aquila in

so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.

we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.

but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.

WingCommander

Ignorance is bliss. Self-imposed ignorance is intellectual, spiritual, and emotional suicide.

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The Royal Commission and Watchtower - A game changer

by Hidden-Window in

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i had finished watching all the videos on the royal commission's investigation of jehovah's witnesses (yes, i know more videos are being released).

i am still processing the information of everything that has emerged.

i do not plan to cover it all here, but i would like to point out that it is patently obvious that some of the wt representatives provided misleading information.

WingCommander

Cults don't change. In fact, I'd wager that they'll buckle down twice as hard and try to oust any dissenters and leave only a smaller, more fanatical, more zealous group of brain-dead followers. In the JW's, if you have a brain you are to leave it at the door or else don't bother being baptized.