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  GB member Geoffrey Jackson going apostate

  by darkspilver in

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  yes, it's true, geoffrey jackson, the cleverest member of the governing body, is going apostate.. he's already written two scholarly books, the question is .... when is his third book going to be released!!.....

  desirousofchange: "faded" is definitely only an "apostate" term.

  i don't know of it being used by wt publications or "in the dark" jwsberrygerry: geoff jackson used it during the arc..

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  Hasn't Jackson heard? "It's better to burn out, than to faaaaaade awaaay!"
  
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  Canada Bethel (Georgetown) to begin renovations early 2017

  by Richard_I in

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  a letter was just read at my midweek meeting that georgetown (canada bethel) will have renovations done on it beginning spring 2017. the letter asked for publishers who are electricians/plumbers/etc.

  and in good standing to apply to help out.

  those helping out will be considered "part-time commuters" and will only be at the property for about 3 days a week and must reside outside of bethel and pay for all their own expenses.

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  What a racket these assholes have going on. "Hey! Come work for us for FREE, so that we can sell off the property and make profit off your hard work, and oh golly gee, pay your own way and for own expenses. Must be able to tolerate emotional abuse."

  Where do I sign up???
  
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  good incounter with 30 ish jw sister today

  by JunkYardDog in

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  ran into this lone sister in fs.

  today stopped her as she was hiding her wt mag.. i went straight into child molestion and the catholics/ then switched it on the wt.

  she tried to tell me all jw are told to go to the police.

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  My last door knock from a JW was about 9 years ago. It happened to be a nice lady who's daughter I grew up with. The daughter got a "worldly" boyfriend at age 19. She was promptly DF'd. She married him. They'd been married 10 years. I point blank asked this mother how shunning her own daughter for 10 years for doing nothing except being a normal human being desiring love and affection, was working out for her? I also asked her why we were standing there, as I was promised as a young child that I wouldn't grow old in this System of Things, have a job, a car, a mortgage, children? I said, "It's 2009, and I have ALL of those things, so doesn't that make the WT liars and false prophets?" All I got back was her eyes on the ground, a dejected look, and stunned silence. She looked haggard. I felt sorry for her.
  
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  The cleaning bug

  by Steel in

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  i have a wife that literally cleans the house 24 7. it's hard on our marriage, our son has no natural affection for her.

  if we go to an assembly she literally spends two days waxing and polishing the car.

  she hand washes all the clothes before go into the washing machine because no machine could ever do as good a job as her.

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  I clean my house, cars, etc as well. My wife does the laundry and a little dusting. It truly is from my JW up-bringing. I also can't stand to see things out of order. It's a form of OCD, I have no doubt about it.

  As for your wife hand washing the clothes before she puts them into the washing machine, well that's a whole other level of "sick". She has an extreme form of OCD, and you should seek therapy and treatment for her immediately. Constant 24/7 cleaning like that (not merely picking up around the house) is also symptom of extreme OCD behaviour. Seek out help for her ASAP.
  
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  Hi forum

  by A Believer in

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  i proably shouldnt be on here but i feel like saying this.

  i have been for the last couple weeks been studying religion.

  i've learned the only ones who today do what the bible says to is jw.

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  Troll Alert! Troll Alert!
  
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  How about prayers being used as a talk?

  by NikL in

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  another thread on here made me think of it.. its a personal peeve of mine.. you bow your head in prayer and the brother says thinks like thank you for the lessons we learned today like bla bla bla and for that wonderful point about yadda yadda yadda.

  jehovah we know that etc etc etc therefore we must...well you get the gist.and on and on it goes.

  absolutely drives me mad..

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  I've felt that way for a loooooooong time. As a child, it was torture, pure torture, to have to sit thru DAYS of boredom at a hot DC in a venue like The Vet, only to be treated to a 10-minute unending prayer on the last day. Pure torture. What, you're gonna get more everlasting life cause you laid it on thick to the man in charge at some DC in 1983? Sure.
  
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  "50 Years a Watchtower Slave" Chapter 3 Part A

  by new boy in

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  the door to door salesmen .

  southern california wasn’t hawaii after the war but it was real close.

  there was great weather, plenty of jobs and no smog yet.

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  20,000 different sects, but only a handful of CULTS claim to have absolute "Truth" under penalty of total annihilation if you are wrong. Guess which ones?
  
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  Your work is not in vain! Thank You!

  by de-opresso-liber in

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  been lurking since early this year.

  there are many of us out there (at least in this area, central u.s.) who are waking up and crossing the line to talk to each other about it.

  in our area, several elders, ministerial servants and pioneers are actively and openly sharing info with each other daily.

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  Are you and your wife born-ins, or converts? Just curious. Welcome!
  
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  My Story

  by SamTheGinge in

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  so, i joined just yesterday after coming across this forum looking at beth sarim, and i though that i would share my story with you.

  it will no doubt be very similar to a lot of others, but it's a way of getting to know me at least.. i was brought up as witness from the age of 4 years old, my dad picked up the 'truth' from one of his friends in the pub and it seemed to go from there, he would quickly get baptised and progress to becoming a ministerial servant and then an elder.

  from a young age i wanted to be like my dad and become a pioneer, a ministerial servant and then an elder... perhaps even becoming a co. the world, spiritually speaking, was my oyster.

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  Question: What sort of message does this send to your children, that you allow your father to treat you as a 2nd class citizen, and openly disrespect you in such a fashion?

  Families are a package deal. Not willing to accept your life decisions? Want to shun you, yet still expect you to serve up your children to be brainwashed at their convenience to also eventually disrespect you? I'd tell that azzhat to promptly go get fugged!! And I'm not just saying that, I had similar happen to me and that's EXACTLY what I did. No one shits on me, then gets to still see my children.

  I would NEVER let a brainwashed cult member around my young children unattended. EVER. They will do everything in their power to indoctrinate them with their bullshit, and drive to divide and conquer.
  
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  My Ex Wife Admitted She Doesnt Believe It's The Truth

  by pale.emperor in

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  my ex-wife actually opened up to me today over the phone.

  she was quite anxious and, i could sense, i little upset.

  for those that dont know my situation im separated from my wife.

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  WingCommander

  Look at the positive Pale Emperor: You may in fact be able to salvage a working, amicable, parental relationship with your ex-wife, in order to raise your daughter up properly. Your wife may very well tire of the JW BS, leave, and things may turn out all right, with you actually being friendly with her in the long run. (friends, nothing more.)