WTF? 11 pages of this back-n-forth BS? Why have the mods and/or Simon not locked and deleted this thread? This has got to be the most drawn-out ridiculousness I've ever seen on this forum. Wow!!
WingCommander
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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel
by _Morpheus inso fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
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Interview by Priest George Maximov with XJW Artem Grigoryan who was a volunteer at the Russian "Bethel" for 4.5 years. Here's what he said:
by AndersonsInfo intop of formhttp://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/78966.htm.
jehovahs witnesses do not need a search for the truth.
artem grigoryan.
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New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums
by suavojr inlet the merging begin!!!.
to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.
re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.
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New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums
by suavojr inlet the merging begin!!!.
to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.
re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.
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WingCommander
Know what I find really disturbing? The use (multiple times) of the words "Master Plan." If that's doesn't scream "old Krout-controlling-Nazi-cult-leadership", I don't know what does. That is really creepy and weird.
"Ya Schroeder, Franz told me dat ve hav to cut bach on uzing da gas chambers so much, ve need to conserve da Zyclon-B."
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The 1995 Generation Change
by sloppyjoe2 ini was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.
everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.
this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.
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@ steve2:
That was a perfect summation of JW's today. Totally spot on.
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The 1995 Generation Change
by sloppyjoe2 ini was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.
everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.
this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.
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That's a helluva Newsweek article! I had no clue that even existing. -
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Just an introduction
by Israel Ricky Gonzales injust wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.
allow myself to introduce myself.
lol.
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WingCommander
I'll say this; I wouldn't have anything Apostate online like you do. Elders will use it to get your wife to divorce you.
Also, your wife (if educated), may be a lot smarter than most give her credit for. After the reaming you got at your JC, maybe that has already been an eye-opener for her. Also a rude awakening, is the despicable treatment and lack of support she has experienced since you were tossed out on your bum. Face it, are the ELDERS going to pay her bills? Buy her food? Take care of her, as you did? Um, NO. I'm sure she's experienced the "Christian Love" that emanates from these losers. The treatment of loved ones alone is enough to get people thinking, the doctrinal questioning of issues comes later.
You are on the right path with counseling.
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The 1995 Generation Change
by sloppyjoe2 ini was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.
everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.
this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.
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WingCommander
I am 36. 1995 was 20 years ago already. 1985 was 30 years ago. 30 years ago the WT's and Awake!'s with the whole 1914 and Generation covers were fresh in our young minds. How big was it? HUGE. As a child of 6 in 1985, there was an older gentlemen in my congregation in Columbia, PA named Charlie Nagle. I kind, tall, then gentleman of 90+ years old. So, he was clearly of that Generation. I remember always asking him how many more years to 100? It was just kind of a kid joke.....and also kind of a joke of the times.....that being, that he wouldn't be an old man at 100, because the "New Order" would be here and he'd be young with me and we could play together. How sad.......Brother Nagle and his wife have long since departed, and at 36 I'm in the early stages of middle age and at some point will reach old age. I am becoming the old man. (though I'm fighting it, as I'm in great shape).
This cult has put such a mind-job on all of us. And it's really mentally frustrating to know and hear about people on a few years younger than myself (30-ish) who don't know about how much emphasis and importance was placed on 1914 and the Generation.....to the point that WE (ex-JWs, etc) actually have to explain it to them, or that they deny it!!!!!! That is very, very nerve-racking to me. It's almost like my childhood belief system didn't even happen, even though I lived it!!!! That is crazy....just crazy!!!
I wish I could say the 1995 change woke me up. Truth is, I was 15 and too busy to even read those idiotic magazines. My parents got the mags, but hadn't been attending much at all since 1991 or so. It was completely missed by my family until later. What a mind-job this cult is.
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Let me get this straight
by poopie inat the regional they said they need brothers like crazy, but sisters are giveing out the literature and sisters are handling contranution boxes but yet they say brothers are lazy shiftless following at distance can someone explain this.
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@ Billy:
Hey! That's my line!!
"The beatings will continue until morale improves."
Kind of like the one poster on here who always says, "........It's a Cult!"
LOL.
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Hi all, the prodigal daughter returns to JWD.
by cattails init's been four years (has it really been that long) that i haven't been on jwd.. i was back out west for a long while and i came back to new england.
just got an appartment with another sister and things are looking up.
i'm keeping under the radar and avoiding elder visits--not fully out of the kingdom hall yet.
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Living in Pennsylvania, I can tell you from experience that the closer you get to Cult Headquarters, the more looney, strict, stressful, and Pharasiticial it becomes. Oh sure, there are control mechanisms everywhere you go in JW-Land, but the closer to HQ you get, the worse it is. New England / Mid-Atlantic states are the worst. UGH!!!