did anyone here get to hear the talk you will be with me in paradise by ciro aulicino in 2007 at the summer convention?
i found part of the talk in youtube.
oh the memories!!
Ciro: Is that guy still around? I thought they put him out to pasture in some trailer, never to be seen again? He was the dumbazz that signed / ratified the UN-NGO agreement, allowing the WTBTS to get up on the Wild Beast and ride it around for 11 years in order to use the Library Card, and mooch off other UN benefits.
Good 'ol Ciro. What a loon! I'm sure the ol' Oracle Freddy Franz just loved that crazy Ciro. They were from the same insane asylum I believe.
i read on another thread (on another forum) where someone mentioned a truly guilt-inducing, cringe-worthy, "bad association" video that was played at this summers rc's.
here is how that person described it:.
"the video about "bad association" was really weird.
I read on another thread (on another forum) where someone mentioned a truly guilt-inducing, cringe-worthy, "bad association" video that was played at this summers RC's. Here is how that person described it:
"The video about "bad association" was really weird. Apparently a true a story, it's about a teenage girl who relates how she was friends with some girls at school. One day, they invited her to play basketball with them at the park after school. She went with them, and they all set their backpacks down by the fence while they played. Suddenly, some boys ran up and grabbed the backpacks, attempting to steal them. The girls started trying to fight them off, and then the police came to break up the fight. The narrator was afraid that she would get in trouble, so she ran away. She was very depressed and guilty for a while over her bad association. Just a very odd and pointless video overall. The girl and her friends weren't even involved in any 'wrongdoing'."
Can someone post a youtube link or something to this so we can see the "awkward", guilt-inducing cult-speak for ourselves? I tell you, just when you thought it couldn't get any weirder or lame, you hear something new. What a freakin' cult.
a couple friends pointed me to some info on the sabbath and i just plain like it, being the workaholic i am it's a lifesaver for me and gives me the motivation to be more balanced about my business and work schedule.
so from there i looked into the adventists and found a hall near my place and went last week.
i honestly enjoyed myself and the meeting time is not disruptive and the people were great and pretty laid back.
SDA's are just as crazy at JW's. Think I'm kidding? Check out their LITERATURE. I was at our local fair about 3 years ago, and there was a stand set up by SDA's. (Kind of like the JW's do now - ha!!!) Anyway, what caught my eye was the literature they had sprawled out on the table. The size, look, and specifically the artwork could have been straight from WatchTowers and Awake!'s. It was really, REALLY creepy.....especially with all of the end-time apocalyptic crap on it.
Seriously, SDA is just another flavor of cult crazy. All this talk about how "harmless" they are, is just like what you hear people say about Mormons with their outreach programs, schools, family night, etc. Another flavor of crazy that most people don't have a clue about until they are wrapped up in it. The poster above who mentioned that they do NOT recognize other denominations and that you must belong to their group - that should really be a red flag for anyone who's ever been in a cult. Exclusive salvation thru association is a cult trademark. Jim Jones had it, David Koresh had it, JW's have it, and SDA's have it as well.
if only it was so easy to change our looks in real life........
so last night i was having a wonderful meal in a very nice restaurant when we heard what we thought was a loud clap of thunder.................. it was a bomb.
yards from my hotel.
thankfully i made a few decision that meant i wasn't in the wrong place at the wrong time.
a couple friends pointed me to some info on the sabbath and i just plain like it, being the workaholic i am it's a lifesaver for me and gives me the motivation to be more balanced about my business and work schedule.
so from there i looked into the adventists and found a hall near my place and went last week.
i honestly enjoyed myself and the meeting time is not disruptive and the people were great and pretty laid back.
A bit of clarification is in order: IBSA / JW's are NOT an offshoot of SDA's. SDA's and IBSA / JW's are kissing cousins, having been born of the Milleritte Movement. Russell borrowed some "crazy" from the SDA's sure enough, but then added in his own crazy occult pyramidology, Freemasonry inclinations, etc into the pot to create his own stew of mathematical occult gibberish.
I'm in Pennsylvania, birthplace of all of this end-times Apocalyptic CRAP. SDA's around here do a lot of good, have a lot of schools, etc. However, they are just as "cult-like" as the JW's, and I've also heard of controlling Elder bodies, harassment, Pharasitical behaviour, and (Drum roll) - SHUNNING. They are only slightly lower on the rung of cults. My list of crazy would read like this:
1.) Scientology
2.) FLDA
3.) Branch Dravidians (an offshoot of SDA's, by the way!!!)
4.) Mormon / LDS
5.) JW's / IBSA
6.) SDA's
i am still attending the kh, i actually recently became aware of the ttatt, what i believed came as a huge surprised for me, i wasn't raised as a jw and have been for about 15 years.
i have always been a very open minded individual all my life always seeing both sides of any situation with logic and common sense and so i believe discovering all of the doctrines i have been taught sense 16 years of age, wasn't extremely hard for me to realize in my heart it was a lie.
well it was me discovering the watchtower society being a ngo member of the un nations for 10 years, after that the snowball just got bigger for me.
so in "your" cong/circuit/regional area how are all things jw?.
baptisms this year?
assembly attendances?
and elderly woman who lives across the street from me has had some hard economic times.
her adult son got injured and had to move back in with her due to his inability to work.
they are struggling.
Local used car salesman Elder would ask needy person to buy a lemon at great profit only to himself, then pass it off as "Charity" the Congregation and walk around claiming he's so "blessed" to be a "Prince among men, one of God's stars."
JW's would NEVER give someone a car, never! Not Pioneers, not Elders, no one! Even CO's who are "given" cars are given cars paid for by other JW's!
ok....how is this possible.....at a 1 day assembly??.....
how do opperating costs, come up to $2300 in one frikkin day?.
watchtower owned.....4 congregation assembly hall , on a small island ?
Is the Assembly Hall powered by solar power? My 2200 sqft home has an electric bill of $200.00 per month. How much do you think a building that size electric bill is? Utilities cost a LOT. I know....as I also help design LEED certified buildings in the commercial and industrial building industry. Upkeep on property costs a lot, even if you have volunteers doing a lot of it.
I'm not saying the Org isn't skimming a good bit off the top though. That's more than probable.
