Dr. Jerry Bergman is 79 years old. (still alive and kicking)
WingCommander
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Top Jehovahs witnesses Historians
by Paul Bonanno inhi .
who do you think are the best historian/historians about the history of jehovahs witnesses?.
paul.
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WingCommander
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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WingCommander
They were most likely referring to his Youtube melt-down from a couple years back where he admitted to his ongoing troubles, holidays to Thailand to "date" escorts, etc, etc, etc. He later deleted the live podcast, but since other people had recorded it, it's still up and around on Youtube, etc. It's an total shit-show and really has him showing his ass for the world to see.
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Top Jehovahs witnesses Historians
by Paul Bonanno inhi .
who do you think are the best historian/historians about the history of jehovahs witnesses?.
paul.
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WingCommander
The late great James Penton wrote the most scholarly, academic, and most works cited historically accurate book on the JW's.
Apocalypse Delayed: The Story of Jehovah's Witnesses
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1/2 of the Jehovah’s witnesses have gone
by hoser inthere are 1/2 of the jehovah’s witnesses that there were 30 years ago in my area.
some have left but i think that many have died and none of their kids stayed being jehovah’s witnesses.
7 congregations have been dissolved over the years.
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WingCommander
Only the truly old, and truly brain-dead and possibly ignorant, sheltered, homeschooled offspring remain. At least, that's what's left in my area. That, and those large construction-owning "Legacy" families. You know the ones; they all are Elders with businesses who's kids intermarry with other elite Elder business own families and basically run the entire Kingdom Hall with an iron fist.
So to summarize:
1. Old timers that are so invested, they can't leave or they'd mentally crack and then die from the shock.
2. Homeschooled morons with ZERO critical thinking skills.
3. Legacy Families. Multi-generational families who's Elduh fathers own businesses, employ pauper JW's, and their children marry other Legacy family children and run the KH as MS's, Elduh's, and snooty entitled Elderette bee-itches. They've seemingly got it made, so even if they "woke up" to the BS, they're so surrounded and intermarried into the cult that they're nearly forced to remain in agony, or else completely up and leave after waking up their immediate family. (it does happen on occasion though)
4. 3rd World immigrants who don't yet have access to the internet to Google "JW's." This segment is actually shrinking as more and more of the world is connected to the information superhighway via smartphones and tablets, etc.
This cult is circling the bowl, hence WT HQ's self-preservation tactics of Irish investment portfolios, real estate portfolios, and the push for multi-media. I fully expect a pay-for-play subscription service to kick-off once the Ram-A-Poo studios are completed. These investments and the selling off of property will ensure that the con-men at the top, remain at the compound to live a cushy life for decades to come, unless the US Government and the lawsuits bleed them dry of all their money. Death by a 1000 CSA lawsuits would be VERY fitting, IMHO.
Anyone between the ages of 18-50 who has 2 fully functioning brain cells, a smart phone, and even the most basic of "Huh, that doesn't seem to make sense" floating around in their heads, has Googled this cult and started down the rabbit hole and towards being POMO.
JW's: It's like Scientology 2.0 now. A complete laughing stock of fraud and despair. Who actually joins Scientology? Nobody. Only children of Scientologists, and that's rarer and rarer. Circling the bowl.
Will the last person out, shut off the Old Light? lol
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New World, New World Order, New System of Things
by blondie inthe wts has used to above terms, over the years, some more preferred in certain time periods.
more though, but these occurred to me first.
also the terms "new world" and "new world order" have been used by some us presidents and other leaders..
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WingCommander
I've only ever heard Old Timers use the term "New Order."
Growing up in the 80's thru 2000 it was always "The New System of Things."
In fact, you could gauge how old or rather how long a person had a been JW by the term they used. If someone used "New Order" you know they were either old or in long enough to have studied those older publications because they used it. I'd guess the "Live Forever" book is the publication that got "New System of Things" really rolling and it stuck the longest.
I've never heard any JW's used the term "New World Order", UNLESS they were referencing something some political outside that was being discussed at the time. Like George Bush using it, or in relation to the United Nations, etc. The closest thing to that in JW-terms was the title of their bible, "The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures", which was pure garbage according Dr. J.R. Mantay. (whom WatchTower misquoted about the deity of the Christ.) Source: the 1986 documentary, "Witnesses of Jehovah" where he was interviewed.
On a similar tangent, we could start a thread about the evolution of this cult's name throughout it's existence:
1. Bible Students
2. IBSA
3. Jehovah's Witnesses
4. The WatchTower Society of Pennsylvania
5. The Society
6. The Organization
7. The Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses (mostly seen on WT letterhead correspondence)
8. JW.borg
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JWs in the news: "‘I Slay and Pray’- Jehovah’s Witness Serena Williams Reflects on Her Faith With Daughter Olympia in a Candid Confession"
by Balaamsass2 in"i slay and pray" :).
serena williams knows how to own a red carpet.
the 23-time grand slam champion turned heads at the vanity fair oscars afterparty, dazzling in a midnight-black, off-shoulder gown.
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WingCommander
Their father is a Pizza Chit! He saw them less as daughters, and more as a "Golden Ticket" out of da 'hood! He built them up, marketed them, and cashed out. Typical USER. He would have made a great Elder, except there was no money to be made in it. lol
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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WingCommander
He just can't get his ass kissed enough!
More praise!
More views!
More narcissistic behaviour!
More donations!
More self-help "holidays" to Thailand to visit his definitely not under-18 LadyBoi girlfriends!
Is there no end to this losers grift?
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New GB member Judy Jedele critizing Job's "humility" while wearing $20,000 Rolex, gold cuff links, coloured suit. Incredible!
by WingCommander ini swear, you can't make this shit up!
for years and years growing up in this cult, i had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth.
" of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning elduhzzzz who ran and lorded it out over the congregations, but i digress.
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WingCommander
@Justaguy:
1. These supposed "Christ's Brothers" absolutely have a right to be examined, questioned, critiqued, and called out on their hypocritical bullshit. And dressing to the nines when you're constantly begging for money month after month definitely deserves calling out, just like any other televangelist douchebags.
2. Oh, so it's not a Rolex? Is your real name by chance Jody? Don't you have some UK real estate to move?
GTFOOH with your apologist BS.
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JWs in the news: "‘I Slay and Pray’- Jehovah’s Witness Serena Williams Reflects on Her Faith With Daughter Olympia in a Candid Confession"
by Balaamsass2 in"i slay and pray" :).
serena williams knows how to own a red carpet.
the 23-time grand slam champion turned heads at the vanity fair oscars afterparty, dazzling in a midnight-black, off-shoulder gown.
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WingCommander
She should give ALL of her "valuable things" to the "Princes Among Men", "Christ's Brothers"......ya know.....the Governing Body. Better to have treasures built up in heaven than upon the earth and all.
I'll be over here holding my breathe. lol
I can't stand EITHER of the William's sisters or their cringe-ass family. They ruined tennis with there disgusting, classless behaviour and arrogant attitudes. I'm so glad they're retired and done. I just wish they'd fade into oblivion never to be heard from again. Maybe they should move back to Compton and fix up the place? Yeah, I'll hold my breathe for that to happen as well.
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New GB member Judy Jedele critizing Job's "humility" while wearing $20,000 Rolex, gold cuff links, coloured suit. Incredible!
by WingCommander ini swear, you can't make this shit up!
for years and years growing up in this cult, i had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth.
" of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning elduhzzzz who ran and lorded it out over the congregations, but i digress.
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@Diogenesister
If you like Jody, you're gonna LUV the other New Boy's name: Gage Fleegle.
WTF kind of name is that? Who names these clowns? I say "New Boy" in Bethel jest of course, as these guys are simultaneously NOT "New Boys", but also are in fact "boys" compared in age to the other Ancient Worthies on the Gluttonous Body. They're practically children! Late 40's? Early 50's at most? Guess the sealing off of the Annointed actually didn't end in 1935, huh? LOL......what a load of horse shit!