Posts by l3gi0n

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Were you baptized too young?

by sandy in

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2 peter 2.

22there has befallen them the thing spoken of in the true proverb, the dog turns back to his own vomit, and, the sow is washed only to wallow again in the mire..

i remember when i was going over my baptismal questions the elder spouted off this scripture to me.. looking back at it i wonder how could he be such a moron!

When I was about 14, I was putting 60 hours a month in service, giving talks, and impromptu talks, donating… the whole nine yards. Anyways I told my mom I was going to get baptized. She asked me one question, “What are you giving up for Jehovah?” Well I said nothing. I didn’t have anything to give up. Well she got pissed, she said I could not get baptized if I were not going to give anything up for Jehovah… Well I never did get baptized.

This brings up another issues I have noticed with myself, and quite a few witness kids. The fact they are completely inept, They cant do a damn thing for them self’s, even when in there 20’s But that is another topic,

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Why would JW's take money from someone they shun?

by unbeliever in

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this happened a long time ago but i have a friend (da'd) who is shunned by his family.

his sister asked if he could give her money every month so she could continue to pioneer.

he is very well off and could afford to give her the money.

l3gi0n

My wife was D/F, but her father calls from time to time, he has borrowed money, and not paid it back, he also asks for us to drive errands for him, that are a few hundred miles, from time to time, and he never turns downs the gifts I bring. It gets under my skin a little because the only time he calls is when he needs a favor. He is the PO, so I guess it is up to him to set the example.

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Israel??

by l3gi0n in

what do you think of israel being reestablished in one day on may 14 ,1948?

do you think it is the fulfillment of .

isaiah 66:7 "before she goes into labor, she gives birth; before the pains come upon her, she delivers a son.

l3gi0n

WOW, Romans 11 really clears things up.. So the Nation of Israel is still god’s chosen people, and they will return to him, Also the gentiles can get in on gods new convent. I still don’t know if 1948 has any real significance, but I guess it doesn’t matter much.. One thing is for sure, the two Isaiah’s prophecies books are really off when compared to Romans 11.

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cross or stake???

by minstrel in

can anyone advise me as to the historical facts regarding the method of execution by the romans.

i have seen a documentary on the tele that stated that lemon trees fitted with a cross beam were used for executions as they were numerous in palestine.. best wishes.

minstrel.

l3gi0n

Jesus dieing on the stake, is nothing more the product differentiation for religion. We are different from the rest, because we have a stake, and not a cross. Weather Jesus died on a stake or cross is completely ill relevant. What matters is that Jesus died, for our sins.

uhhh, yeah what ROOM 215 said.

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Street witnessing...

by yxl1 in

is it back in vogue with the dubs?

i took my wife to see bombay dreams at the theatre last weekend.

(recommended) after the show and while wandering around leicester sq, i noticed a guy selling magazines.

l3gi0n

Street work was always my Favorite, I would start at 5am, and walk up and down the shopping strip, with an old pioneer lady, and maybe one or two other people. So there were always 3 or 4 of us.. Our walk was only about ½ miles. But we took our time, we passed by the fronts of all the stores that would not be open for another 4 or 5 hours at an incredibility slow pace. Often the only vehicle in the parking lot was that of a street cleaner, and the driver never stopped to talk to us. After about 2 hours of this, it would be time for the donut break. Then we hit the laundry mat, That was the sweet spot, an instance 5 placements, and maybe a book, Of course no one was around, there was a 7-11 next door, but we didn’t stick around to talk to the customers. Next thing I knew it was time for service meeting, across town, and of course if I went I didn’t have to stop counting time. An easy 4 hours.

hehe, I knew I was only doing token service, but I don’t think any one I was working with did. I think they really thought they were helping the people in the world.

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Israel??

by l3gi0n in

what do you think of israel being reestablished in one day on may 14 ,1948?

do you think it is the fulfillment of .

isaiah 66:7 "before she goes into labor, she gives birth; before the pains come upon her, she delivers a son.

l3gi0n

Ok I have been reading a little, It looks like the Jews started moving back in 1878, But in 1948 British control over the land ended, and Israel had declared its independence, and was acknowledged all in the same day, And then war started the next day, So it would seem that in fact The nation was born in only a day, and the Labor pain was later (the next day) as war always precedes the creation of a new nation, and in this case it came after.

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Israel??

by l3gi0n in

what do you think of israel being reestablished in one day on may 14 ,1948?

do you think it is the fulfillment of .

isaiah 66:7 "before she goes into labor, she gives birth; before the pains come upon her, she delivers a son.

l3gi0n

What do you think of Israel Being reestablished in one Day on May 14 ,1948? Do you think it is the fulfillment of

Isaiah 66:7 "Before she goes into labor, she gives birth; before the pains come upon her, she delivers a son. 8 Who has ever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children

I think it makes since, but I would like to know if anyone else feels the same. The Isaiah book says some thing about beeing let out of prison, in 1919, and how the AWAKE! magizne is the fulfillment.

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Easy question for JW's.........

by integ in

it was brought out at recent meeting that we must stay close to "jehovah's organization" and follow closely the "admonitions" found in the watchtower magazine because we know that the information found in the watchtower is given directly to us by jehovah himself.

question for the believing witness?

1) if by your own teaching's you believe that jehovah is a god of truth and cannot ever tell non -truths, how do you explain why the watchtower has changed it's "understanding" of scriptures so many times?

l3gi0n

Again, God is using imperfect men to write his truths. This is why the bible tells us that 'the light gets brighter' ( Quote Prov 4:8 ) Jehovah is the editor of the Watchtower because when the time is right he makes known his truths to the men that write the Watchtower. But these men are imperfect ! They cannot understand everything straight the way ! Jehovah doesn't change his mind, its just that imperfect men cannot grasp these truths !

If god is using imperfect men to pen his thoughts, Then why is there not a bunch of different versions of the bible? Some with an incorrect message, and some with the correct message. Did the bible writers have some majikal power.

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Easy question for JW's.........

by integ in

it was brought out at recent meeting that we must stay close to "jehovah's organization" and follow closely the "admonitions" found in the watchtower magazine because we know that the information found in the watchtower is given directly to us by jehovah himself.

question for the believing witness?

1) if by your own teaching's you believe that jehovah is a god of truth and cannot ever tell non -truths, how do you explain why the watchtower has changed it's "understanding" of scriptures so many times?

l3gi0n

I guess the question is

If the Watchtower is not Inspired by god, then how is it speaking for god. And if it is speaking FOR god, and not inspired by god, wouldn't they just be putting words in gods mouth? Words that god did not say.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 7-13-03 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 7-13-03 wt study

reviewer comments will be in black or parentheses.

wt quotes will be in red or quotations

l3gi0n

i really enjoyed this

God's people have sometimes been protected from Satan's attacks by the efforts of certain political elements.

So Satan, is protecting Dubs from himself. Didn't jesus have somthing to say about that kind of thinking at Matt 12:26